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A Boring Dystopia

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[–] Blinsane@reddthat.com 6 points 5 hours ago

After half a century of typical right wing "gubment bad" propaganda meant to dismantle democracy piece by piece I'm not surprised.

[–] Montreal_Metro@lemmy.ca 9 points 7 hours ago

Idiots literally voted for a felon.

[–] Goodmorningsunshine@lemmy.world 3 points 6 hours ago

Lol shouldn't have voted for trump I guess

[–] ABetterTomorrow@lemm.ee 4 points 8 hours ago

Should have voted for the better choice. Remember people over more and power.

[–] return2ozma@lemmy.world 29 points 18 hours ago (2 children)
[–] jh34@lemmy.world 3 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago) (1 children)

This is like the third collection of graphs that are all the same size but use different scales that I've seen in the past ~2 weeks. Slightly annoying.

[–] jacksilver@lemmy.world 3 points 6 hours ago

It's hard to tell with the graph, but the big drop off seems to be around 2016/Trump.

[–] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 24 points 23 hours ago (3 children)

Really? The majority of young male voters voted Trump. They voted for dogshit and got it, why are they acting like thats not what happened?

[–] Godric@lemmy.world 2 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

To be fair, Kamala's "outreach" to young men can be summed up by "vote for the women you know".

Believe it or not, arguing "vote on some else's behalf" isn't a winning strategy.

I've said this before, or tried to.

Official Democratic party policy is pro-business, pro-stock market, pro Nancy Pelosi's portfolio. In the parallel universe where Kamala won, inflation and slowly tightening corporate policies are slowly pressing Americans to death, we're not in a bullshit trade war with Canada, exactly the same number of Palestinians are being killed, absolutely nothing is being done to address healthcare, reproductive rights, gun crime, poverty, disease, the environment, net neutrality or basically anything of that nature.

Official Democratic party messaging is "At least we're not the Republicans." Which means less and less as time goes on. They've got no progressive policies. No one in this nation I think is rabidly pro-Democrat. There are a few that are rabidly anti-Republican.

How many times have I seen this conversation play out: "The Democrats need to reach out to moderate Republicans." "NO, they need to move to the left!" No, the Democrats need to reach out to the majority of Americans. Which is going to mean actually appealing to men. Which they currently DO. NOT.

[–] TimewornTraveler@lemm.ee 4 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

People voted Trump in 2016 because of the same mistrust of the government. They probably keep the narrative.

[–] Quadhammer@lemmy.world 3 points 4 hours ago

When the insurrection happened all I could think was "I dont disagree with insurrection i disagree that they're doing it for mango mussolini"

[–] _cryptagion@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 17 hours ago (2 children)

What does that have to do with it? The data says young people are unhappy, it doesn’t say they are unhappy about the same things. You’re not considering that other people have differing viewpoints than you. I’m sure for Trump voters, the unhappiness is, from their viewpoint, caused by things “the left” is doing. They aren’t unhappy about things he’s been doing.

And while liberals and especially leftists might be unhappy with the government now, conservatives have been unhappy with the general move towards progressive policies for decades. They distrusted the government for much longer than Trump has been president, and they don’t see him or his stooges as being a part of that government either.

[–] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 2 points 5 hours ago

If they're young then they're probably not politically active past the last two election cycles. My point is that people got what they voted for, to not trust in the system that gives them exactly what they chose is silly if nothing else.

[–] Goodmorningsunshine@lemmy.world 1 points 6 hours ago

If young people are "losing hope in the state" but happy with Trump, COVID fucked up their brains and development fucking completely

[–] fossilesque@lemmy.dbzer0.com 14 points 23 hours ago

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[–] lobut@lemmy.ca 46 points 1 day ago* (last edited 16 hours ago) (1 children)

Why would young Americans believe in this system? Trump has thwarted any attempt at justice against him through corruption. The Fox News system is a propaganda machine without barriers with their lying.

I was gonna say that at least the government isn't rounding them up and shooting them like they did at Penn State but it currently isn't looking a crazy amount better right now honestly....

[–] endeavor@sopuli.xyz 14 points 21 hours ago

Trump just exposed all the flaws. US to americans now looks like how US looked to europeans and other countries with functional, non stupid governments.

[–] PunnyName@lemmy.world 107 points 1 day ago (7 children)

Exactly as planned by the new admin.

Dissolve gov trust, install corporations and christofascists.

[–] endeavor@sopuli.xyz 7 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

oh no if only there was an amendment to check and balance the government. It wasn't the first one nor the third one. Shame nobody gives a fuck about the tools given to them.

[–] SoftestSapphic@lemmy.world 8 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

We are slaves who have been trained to hate each other since birth.

I don't know why people expect us to act like bees and swarm every threat that emerges. Nobody gives a shit about each other, at least not enough to throw their life away

[–] endeavor@sopuli.xyz 1 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago) (1 children)

Why throw life away? You would be doing nothing illegal, would get the best lawyers for the trial of the century and could live off well from the kickstarter. Be selfish, get rich and famous ez.

[–] SoftestSapphic@lemmy.world 2 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

I'm pretty sure killing people is illegal.

And that's what is necessary to fix wealth inequality.

[–] endeavor@sopuli.xyz 1 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

You have way bigger problems than wealth inequality. And killing randos will not fix that either. Commies want you to believe that so they can sieze power and keep you poor while they are rich.

Not just distrust, but also uncool. Could you imagine trying as hard as you'd need to try, just to have Matt Gaetz be one of your co-workers? Public service has never been less attractive, and we have never more badly needed senators with actual souls.

[–] Maeve@kbin.earth 45 points 1 day ago

It's every admin. Since the 60s, production has skyrocketed, while real wages, living standards, services and at least a fig leaf of integrity among elected officials found a 13th circle of hell.

[–] NatakuNox@lemmy.world 23 points 1 day ago

Young people are also turning away from corporations as well. I have so many people in my collective that outside of oil products and housing we manly provide each other with many services that the government used to handle or corporations made too expensive. It's not perfect, but damn does it save us all a lot of money.

[–] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 18 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (4 children)

I don’t trust them either

[–] arrow74@lemm.ee 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)
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[–] Fandangalo@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago

If you convince one side that the government is evil and needs to be small, while your government is in fact evil and large, both sides will want to change the system.

This is the culmination of the Republicans thirst for power over morals & Putin’s desire for the USSR’s revenge and coming into world power. We all know both governments (Russia & USA) commit funds to propaganda and psychological warfare. Americans have enjoyed a lot the last 40-60 years. Russia was the USSR in many people’s living lifetimes.

Someone got into bed with Russian mafia, lost a shit ton of money and bankrupted business, and their business acumen was so bad that they needed to make a shady deal to pay off debts, Russia responded with, “How about we make you President? If you help us, the debts are gone.”

Meanwhile, it’s been over a decade of Trump’s influence. “Alternative facts” was like week 1 of the first term. People barely remember that or the blank pages that were all for show. It’s turns out that humans love novelty, and chaos is a ladder, that if you flood the zone with enough lies, you can make whatever truth you want. A lie goes around the world in an hour while the truth puts its shoes on.

Liberals in the US are disorganized and so fractured by a desire for originality that they forgot how to organize. People are tired of fighting. There’s little pay for the common person. Wealth distribution isn’t even fathomable.

There’s 260 working days in a year. If you made $400k/working days for 2025 years (between now & Christ as the right liked to say), you wouldn’t have enough money to beat Bezos’ holdings.

The everyday person? At the median salary, you’d have to make that trip 3,145 times.

You’d have to work $37k, for 260 days a year, 2025 Christtimes, 3,145 times.

We’re too busy fighting each other to even process how broken the wealth gap is. Once you put it in human terms, I don’t see how any moral person could allow that to exist. When we have the crisis of the unhoused, the crisis of violence, the crisis of food and education.

Christ asks people in Matthew 25:32

31 “When the Son of Man comes in his glory, and all the angels with him, then he will sit on the throne of his glory. 32 All the nations will be gathered before him, and he will separate people one from another as a shepherd separates the sheep from the goats, 33 and he will put the sheep at his right hand and the goats at the left. 34 Then the king will say to those at his right hand, ‘Come, you that are blessed by my Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world; 35 for I was hungry and you gave me food, I was thirsty and you gave me something to drink, I was a stranger and you welcomed me, 36 I was naked and you gave me clothing, I was sick and you took care of me, I was in prison and you visited me.’ 37 Then the righteous will answer him, ‘Lord, when was it that we saw you hungry and gave you food, or thirsty and gave you something to drink? 38 And when was it that we saw you a stranger and welcomed you, or naked and gave you clothing? 39 And when was it that we saw you sick or in prison and visited you?’ 40 And the king will answer them, ‘Truly I tell you, just as you did it to one of the least of these who are members of my family, you did it to me.’

I’m a liberal. I’m non-binary. I’m very thankful for my life. I know I haven’t treated my own family the best. We’ve been fighting over all this bullshit…

I don’t want any harm to anyone, but how can you say you follow Jesus, or Buddha, or Laozi, or the Earth Spirit, “This wealth is okay.” No religion supports it.

Anyway, I have to believe we’ll get through this. My faith is in humanity. I wish we’d recognize ourselves as one species.

[–] chicken@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 1 day ago

While the Gallup poll does not cover the direct repercussions of US President Donald Trump’s second term, experts believe that rising political polarisation is likely to lead to a sharp drop in trust in future surveys.

And the survey doesn't even take this recent shit into account, soon literally nobody will trust the government

[–] RymrgandsDaughter@lemmy.world 23 points 1 day ago (13 children)

Because fucking corpos, lobbyists, and passive goons are make trusting anything pointless.

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[–] sad_detective_man@lemmy.dbzer0.com 28 points 1 day ago (1 children)

just remembered it's been long enough since 9/11 and the resulting war that young people were trusting the government again. cool

[–] AfricanExpansionist@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 day ago

It always blew my mind when this kid ten years younger than me was cheering about Obama killing bin Laden without producing a body, no arrest or trial... When I pushed him about it he accused me of lacking patriotism.

[–] MyOpinion@lemm.ee 14 points 1 day ago

I wonder how this could happen?

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