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“Even if this motion is successful, it doesn’t mean that Luigi Mangione walks out of prison,” said Ron Kuby, a criminal defense attorney whose practice focuses on civil rights. “All it means is that the items that were seized from him, or seized that belong to him, can’t be used as evidence against him.”

Kuby thinks that Mangione’s team has made enough claims in their papers to merit a hearing on the issues, in which the police officer involved would have to testify, confirming or denying the facts. “It does appear that they stopped and frisked Mangione without a legal basis to do it. If that’s true, everything that follows from there is likely to be found to be unconstitutional,” he said.

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[–] wirebeads@lemmy.ca 204 points 1 week ago (5 children)

America needs more Luigis.

[–] CallateCoyote@lemmy.world 59 points 1 week ago

Many, many more.

[–] orbituary@lemmy.dbzer0.com 40 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Definitely more symbols like him. If he's found innocent, then we must ask if Luigi's identity and movement extend to the true killer. If he's found guilty, then we have a more complex conversation.

Either way, we need more.

[–] Broadfern@lemmy.world 53 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I’m still convinced this poor kid is a patsy because NYPD was facing down a riot, or worse (for them), for the blatant classism in their investigation efforts.

Unfortunately much of the public has given Luigi credit/deemed him “guilty” out of a need for ideological symbolism and an outlet to express frustration.

[–] Furbag@lemmy.world 36 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I'm also of the opinion that the real killer might have very well gotten away and I seriously would not put it past the dirty cops to have a close lookalike take a fall and plant evidence on him.

Regardless, what the court of public opinion thinks of the guy who got arrested for the crime in question is, thankfully, still irrelevant in court proceedings. The prosecution still has to prove that it was him, and if they improperly collected the evidence they plan to use against him, it's going to be an uphill battle.

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[–] AarynBlack@lemm.ee 125 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I just wanted to say Luigi without getting banned

[–] Lemminary@lemmy.world 103 points 1 week ago (7 children)

You can post images, too! Ain't that neat?

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[–] AreaKode@lemmy.world 100 points 1 week ago (2 children)
[–] JonsJava@lemmy.world 27 points 1 week ago
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[–] Sterile_Technique@lemmy.world 94 points 1 week ago (2 children)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fruit_of_the_poisonous_tree

There are exceptions, though. It'll be a question of whether or not the prosecution can make an argument that it falls into one of those.

...well, it'll be a question of who's at the judge's bench. The actual law doesn't mean shit in this country.

[–] Artyom@lemm.ee 49 points 1 week ago (1 children)

The judge on the bench in this case has been insisting on Luigi wearing ankle cuffs, so there's that for context...

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[–] HowAbt2morrow@futurology.today 40 points 1 week ago (3 children)

The court artist made Luigi look like a grumpy Liberace. Wtf?!

[–] GreyAlien@lemm.ee 52 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I worked in courts and the sketch artists are something else. One time, one of them sketched me in 5min. I looked so bummed and guilty that I felt like I was staring down a 25 year sentence. To this day I still keep the drawing on my wall ( ˘ ³˘)

[–] HowAbt2morrow@futurology.today 26 points 1 week ago (1 children)

That’s pretty cool that you can have something like that at home. Must make for some cool conversations.

Between the two of us, how guilty were you? For real though.

[–] GreyAlien@lemm.ee 30 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Ahah it truly does! Especially when I invite partners, some get uneasy, thinking it’s some kind of trophy of some kind. Can get awkward but it’s a pretty effective glass breaker.

On the advice of my highly paid counsel, I respectfully decline to answer that question and invoke the fifth, trump style.

[–] adespoton@lemmy.ca 24 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Trump style? So you’re going to eventually tell us everything?

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