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[–] Cimbazarov@hexbear.net 32 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

It was funny cause I saw a clip of Tim Cook saying that it hasnt been cheap to manufacture a Iphone in China for a long time now, and the reason they do it is because they have the people with the necessary skills, which we dont have here. Judging by how we are defunding education at lightspeed we are never going to be able train people to have those skills.

[–] TreadOnMe@hexbear.net 23 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

This is completely true. If we were really going for extremely low labor cost we would move this stuff to Thailand, the Philippines or Malaysia. The Chinese literally helped pioneer and develop most of the manufacturing processes used to manufacture smart phones.

Even if it isn't 'cheap' to manufacture there, it is likely far more cost effective in the long-term to maintain that trading relationship, rather than move it somewhere else. And when I say cost effective, I mean it could literally triple the price to make it in the U.S. for the next decade. They'll take double the price if they have to.

[–] cfgaussian@lemmygrad.ml 7 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

The idea of "cheap Chinese labor" is fast becoming an anachronistic myth. Wages in China have gone up massively over the past couple of decades. When adjusted to local costs of living, Chinese factory workers actually end up with more relative spending power than American service industry workers. Additionally, if we want to use liberal lingo, China now has the biggest "middle class" in the world. The reason why China is still the preferred location for manufacturing is because it has all the integrated supply chains, the infrastructure, the automation, and the educated+trained workforce to optimize production and make it more profitable than even places with cheaper labor costs can.

[–] miz@hexbear.net 31 points 1 week ago (1 children)

those who do not move do not notice their supply chains

[–] huf@hexbear.net 10 points 1 week ago
[–] Feinsteins_Ghost@hexbear.net 28 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

WE DO NOT HAVE A WORKFORCE IN THE US CAPABLE OF MANUFACTURING SUCH A PRODUCT, let alone the facilities to manufacture such a product. (Sorry for yelling btw)

Look at whats happening w TSMC's Arizona (iirc) plant. They have to import from Korea, the brains capable of running the equipment. Nobody domestically is smart enough to drive the fucking car, fellas.

[–] Carl@hexbear.net 17 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

There's a country that lacked a lot of industrial knowledge and training fifty years ago that invested heavily into enticing foreigners to come and set things up (and also sent a lot of their kids to overseas education to bring that knowledge back home) and that country probably has a lot of people who would come teach us how to work in factories again if we weren't so damn racist.

[–] merthyr1831@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 week ago

but have you considered child labour

[–] sovietknuckles@hexbear.net 18 points 1 week ago

Capitalism is when no iPhone

[–] Dirt_Owl@hexbear.net 10 points 1 week ago

We bringing the dystopia home bois!

[–] Rey_McSriff@hexbear.net 6 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Final Fantasy Xi xi-reactionary-spotted

[–] merthyr1831@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 week ago

i wouldn't underestimate the American Labour pool if i were you: children have very nimble fingers and can learn very quickly on the job