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[–] gargolito@lemm.ee 32 points 1 month ago (4 children)

This seems like a recursion nightmare for overthinkers like me.

[–] Khanzarate@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago

Luckily my model of other people's model of me has lost enough genuine character that it's more of a trope so my model of someone else's model of me has like 3 models that apply to everyone and that's so reductive I ignore them.

[–] MudMan@fedia.io 4 points 1 month ago

Oh, stay away from semioticians, then.

Semiosis diagrams are like trypophobia bait memes but specifically for information scientists.

[–] Sergio@slrpnk.net 2 points 1 month ago

I vaguely remember from grad school that "copresence heuristics" were a workable solution, but I don't remember the details.

[–] Bubs@lemm.ee 1 points 1 month ago

Basically, the big circle is what you think of them, and the small circle is what you believe they think of you.

[–] 0ops@lemm.ee 19 points 1 month ago (3 children)

So basically that scene in the princess bride when the Sicilian dude is trying to work out which drink Wesley poisoned

[–] TimewornTraveler@lemm.ee 2 points 1 month ago

I remember that one time I learned man was mortal from all my studying, leading me to carry poison around but put it at maximum arms length whenever I pour it into a glass

[–] ReplicantBatty@lemmy.one 2 points 1 month ago

Never go up against a Sicilian when death is on the line!

[–] ArtVandelay@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

And my wife staring back at me like Wesley did

[–] mmddmm@lemm.ee 4 points 1 month ago

And somehow it's Eve that has the most correct model, including the reflective models.

[–] friend_of_satan@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Can somebody explain this? I don't get it.

[–] TimewornTraveler@lemm.ee 6 points 1 month ago

Alice and Bob are names of User A and B in cyber security textbooks I think

[–] lauha@lemmy.one 5 points 1 month ago

You have a model of every person you know in your head and you have a model of how those other people see you in your head. The way you interact (or interface) with other people is based on those models, i.e. how you think they are ans how you think they would respond and how you think they see you.

[–] recklessengagement@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

How we percieve others vs how others perceive us perceiving them

And vice versa

[–] friend_of_satan@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

I get that part. This is posted in a humor forum though, and I dont see any humor.

[–] recklessengagement@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

Hmm, good point

What if Bob and Alice are the same person? 👉 👈

[–] rartino@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

I have been thinking quite a bit about the models pictured here and what can be achieved by influencing these models. Where it gets interesting is "Alice's model of Alice" which is the model you may want to learn to 'hack' to change your own habits and behavior.

[–] untakenusername@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 month ago

stack overflow error incoming

[–] DeltaWingDragon@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 month ago

!sciencediagramshitposting@sh.itjust.works

[–] TootSweet@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

Woah, I thought I was in !weedtime@crazypeople.online for a minute there.

[–] meep_launcher@lemm.ee 1 points 1 month ago

Jesse Wells has a line that gets me every time:

"Time is not a mirror/ it's some distorted view/ of the way you thought you was/ and what you thought they thought of you"