this post was submitted on 29 Apr 2025
180 points (96.4% liked)

Funny

10734 readers
784 users here now

General rules:

Exceptions may be made at the discretion of the mods.

founded 2 years ago
MODERATORS
 
top 22 comments
sorted by: hot top controversial new old
[–] gargolito@lemm.ee 32 points 2 months ago (4 children)

This seems like a recursion nightmare for overthinkers like me.

[–] Khanzarate@lemmy.world 5 points 2 months ago

Luckily my model of other people's model of me has lost enough genuine character that it's more of a trope so my model of someone else's model of me has like 3 models that apply to everyone and that's so reductive I ignore them.

[–] MudMan@fedia.io 4 points 2 months ago

Oh, stay away from semioticians, then.

Semiosis diagrams are like trypophobia bait memes but specifically for information scientists.

[–] Sergio@slrpnk.net 2 points 2 months ago

I vaguely remember from grad school that "copresence heuristics" were a workable solution, but I don't remember the details.

[–] Bubs@lemm.ee 1 points 2 months ago

Basically, the big circle is what you think of them, and the small circle is what you believe they think of you.

[–] 0ops@lemm.ee 19 points 2 months ago (3 children)

So basically that scene in the princess bride when the Sicilian dude is trying to work out which drink Wesley poisoned

[–] TimewornTraveler@lemm.ee 2 points 2 months ago

I remember that one time I learned man was mortal from all my studying, leading me to carry poison around but put it at maximum arms length whenever I pour it into a glass

[–] ReplicantBatty@lemmy.one 2 points 2 months ago

Never go up against a Sicilian when death is on the line!

[–] ArtVandelay@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago

And my wife staring back at me like Wesley did

[–] mmddmm@lemm.ee 4 points 2 months ago

And somehow it's Eve that has the most correct model, including the reflective models.

[–] friend_of_satan@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago (3 children)

Can somebody explain this? I don't get it.

[–] TimewornTraveler@lemm.ee 6 points 2 months ago

Alice and Bob are names of User A and B in cyber security textbooks I think

[–] lauha@lemmy.one 5 points 2 months ago

You have a model of every person you know in your head and you have a model of how those other people see you in your head. The way you interact (or interface) with other people is based on those models, i.e. how you think they are ans how you think they would respond and how you think they see you.

[–] recklessengagement@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

How we percieve others vs how others perceive us perceiving them

And vice versa

[–] friend_of_satan@lemmy.world 5 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

I get that part. This is posted in a humor forum though, and I dont see any humor.

[–] recklessengagement@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago

Hmm, good point

What if Bob and Alice are the same person? 👉 👈

[–] rartino@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

I have been thinking quite a bit about the models pictured here and what can be achieved by influencing these models. Where it gets interesting is "Alice's model of Alice" which is the model you may want to learn to 'hack' to change your own habits and behavior.

[–] untakenusername@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 months ago

stack overflow error incoming

[–] DeltaWingDragon@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 months ago

!sciencediagramshitposting@sh.itjust.works

[–] TootSweet@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago

Woah, I thought I was in !weedtime@crazypeople.online for a minute there.

[–] meep_launcher@lemm.ee 1 points 2 months ago

Jesse Wells has a line that gets me every time:

"Time is not a mirror/ it's some distorted view/ of the way you thought you was/ and what you thought they thought of you"