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[–] propter_hog@hexbear.net 22 points 2 months ago

This is why you drop outliers

[–] NewDark@lemmings.world 14 points 2 months ago

That's kind of the point of using medians

[–] Orcinus@lemmygrad.ml 14 points 2 months ago

...Would I trust Videl to be a class traitor?

[–] ocean@lemmy.selfhostcat.com 6 points 2 months ago
[–] blandfordforever@lemm.ee -2 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] Barabas@hexbear.net 38 points 2 months ago (3 children)

Median numbers do look a lot better when you remove 60% of below median earning workers, who would have thought.

[–] King_Simp@lemmygrad.ml 7 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Where's this coming from? (I'm probably just blind, sorry)

[–] Barabas@hexbear.net 18 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

70% of the US working population are full time workers.

30% of the working population are thus excluded, and they are likely all (with some extraordinary exceptions) below the median wage. Which means that 60% of below median wage workers are being excluded (or 51 million people), which is a significant amount compared to the top 1000 people in the above example. Doesn't say so in the wikipedia article, but easy to tease out when they start weaseling with "fully employed" when a significant amount of the working population are not part time employed by choice.

[–] King_Simp@lemmygrad.ml 9 points 2 months ago

I love statistics.

Also thx for the explanation

[–] RandomGen1@lemm.ee 8 points 2 months ago

It's only that high if you narrow the scope to only full-time and employed for the whole year. This neglects how much (or maybe rather how little) the us values a large proportion of its labor. I didn't check the math on the percentage they gave, but it's at least in the right ballpark from some very rough napkin math- 60% of below median is 30% of total, and if we make a not amazing assumption that the "curve" of earnings is linear, then we can just shift the median by the given 30%, which if you shift up from 47960 you get 68.5k, or if you shift down from 60070 you get 42k.

[–] Finiteacorn@lemmygrad.ml 5 points 2 months ago

man i never noticed that, thats crazy.

[–] blandfordforever@lemm.ee 3 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

I thought it was just a meaningful statistic but your comment suggests people are finding it misleading.

Perhaps a more relatable metric: This means the median wage for a full time worker in the us is about $30/hr.

Again, "full time workers" likely includes more professionals who earn a higher wages than the part time group, which includes fewer professionals.