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Germany's spy agency BfV has labeled the entirety of the far-right Alternative for Germany (AfD) party as an extremist entity.

The BfV domestic intelligence agency, which is in charge of safeguarding Germany's constitutional order, said the announcement comes after an "intense and comprehensive" examination.

"The ethnicity-and ancestry-based conception of the people that predominates within the party is not compatible with the free democratic order," the BfV said on Friday.

Hopefully this inspires the other parties to to start the process to see the AfD banned. I know the report might not look like much, because of how obvious the findings are. But previous attempts at banning them have failed because such an official report was missing. So maybe our political system starts getting its shit together.

As we say in Germany: Hope dies last

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[–] whereisk@lemmy.world 69 points 4 days ago (11 children)

Greece banned golden dawn as a criminal organisation and while a lot of members splintered into other parties it was overall a success in nearly removing all their influence as a political organisation from Greek politics - so, overall banning the fascist party, at least in one instance, worked.

[–] puddinghelmet@feddit.nl 21 points 4 days ago

Wow W Greece 💯🙌🏻

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[–] AntelopeRoom@lemm.ee 41 points 4 days ago (4 children)

Learn from history and America. No half measures. If you're going to label them extremists, you also have to break them.

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[–] puddinghelmet@feddit.nl 33 points 4 days ago

AFD should be banned... Threat to democracy tf

[–] ArchmageAzor@lemmy.world 101 points 5 days ago (8 children)

AfD are Nazis in all but name. How is it they remain unprosecuted in a nation where swastikas and the Hitler salute are outlawed?

[–] InvertedParallax@lemm.ee 55 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (4 children)

They're not just nazis, they're nazis sponsored and funded by putin.

This is documented, but racists would rather support their literal enemy than dare accept changing their worldview in any way.

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[–] electric_nan@lemmy.ml 39 points 4 days ago (50 children)

"The ethnicity-and ancestry-based conception of the people that predominates within the party is not compatible with the free democratic order,"

Great news, but also ironic considering German uncritical support for Israel.

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[–] solrize@lemmy.world 53 points 5 days ago (31 children)

What does it mean if a democracy bans a party that the voters want to elect? Better to ask what failure of the system made that party popular in the first place. We have a similar situation in the US fwiw.

[–] bjoern_tantau@swg-empire.de 165 points 5 days ago (11 children)

True, but then again we have lived through that already and know that dangerous parties can be elected democratically. That is exactly the reason why we have this mechanism in place.

An anti democratic party has no right to be elected democratically.

[–] slevinkelevra@sh.itjust.works 92 points 5 days ago (3 children)

Exactly. Democracy is famously the only system which allows to be dismantled through its own tools. That is why the German system is called "Wehrhafte Demokratie" (defensive democracy) to not end up like the Weimar Republic.

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[–] jupyter_rain@discuss.tchncs.de 35 points 5 days ago (2 children)

I fear, that many if not most people do not understand why AFD is an undemocratic party or why this would even matter for them.

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[–] SorteKanin@feddit.dk 7 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

What does it mean if a democracy bans a party that the voters want to elect?

To be fair, 80% of voters did not vote for AfD - and if 80% of voters want to ban a party? Well, that is democracy. Although it's a dangerous tool to use.

The US is way more fucked, as more people actually voted for Trump than not.

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