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[–] 0_o7@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 6 days ago

#boycottraybans

[–] 9point6@lemmy.world 76 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Ew, imagine spending money to wear the privacy invasion of everyone around you on your face

Didn't end well for the people a decade ago with Google glass

[–] Ledericas@lemm.ee 1 points 5 days ago

android zuckerberg still trying to control human minds through tech.

[–] madame_gaymes@programming.dev 29 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I always say the same thing about Tesla owners, and similar things about people that use Google Home/Alexa/Siri.

We've rolled out the red carpet for Big Brother, and we've paid them to do it.

[–] harsh3466@lemmy.ml 11 points 1 week ago (5 children)

It’s why I’m holding onto my dumb early 2000s car as long as I can. I don’t want a fucking surveillance machine on wheels.

[–] southsamurai@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 week ago

Man, I've had tree limbs fall on my car, breaking every window, knocking body panels loose, and leaving a giant dent in the roof, and I still haven't gotten a different car because of that bullshit.

[–] njordomir@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago

Yeah, my car is a little bit newer than that, but it's a base model and is missing a lot of "features", even compared to the higher trim levels (which still didn't have android auto or car play). I have no interest in adding cameras and the voice recognition is so bad I could probably just unplug it completely. I'm sitting at about 60-70k miles with the only major work being spark plug replacement and a brake overhaul. I expect another 100k miles at least.

[–] madame_gaymes@programming.dev 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Huzzah for old hoopties! I drive a '97, myself. Doing all your own maintenance goes a long way in keeping your car running, both in terms of the money you spend and your ability to react calmly when something inevitably breaks on it.

[–] harsh3466@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

It sure does! I'm no car expert but I can and have been doing basic maintenance on this car. Its a hooptie but it's serving us well.

[–] madame_gaymes@programming.dev 1 points 1 week ago

Luckily, we live in a time where you don't have to be an expert, just need to be able to read and organize yourself!

[–] NOPper@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 week ago

There's a shitload of privacy issues with almost all new cars, but at least outside of Tesla I don't know of any streaming cameras anywhere past the dash. Even if they did most 360 camera systems have pretty shit views for anything but the road immediately around the vehicle. I just got a new Ford and you wouldn't see faces no matter how close or far someone was from any of the cameras without them putting their head right up to one. Sure my GPS data is going who knows where at all times and they know about every hard turn or speeding incident, but outside of removing the battery from my phone I'm not exactly sure how to avoid that going to a half dozen random companies for pennies anyway.

I'm a privacy conscious dude but I'm so damn tired of losing to big companies I'm not sure how hard I can fight beyond tiny donations to the EFF and being aware of all these issues to annoy my friends about whenever it comes up. 🤷‍♂️

[–] TrojanRoomCoffeePot@lemmy.world 21 points 1 week ago

They'd better not, for the safety of wearers. I can't be the only one who remembers the way that people wearing the Google Glasses:

Google started selling a prototype of Google Glass to qualified "Glass Explorers" in the US on April 15, 2013, for a limited period for $1,500, before it became available to the public on May 15, 2014. It has an integrated 5 megapixel still/720p video camera. The headset received a great deal of criticism amid concerns that its use could violate existing privacy laws.

On January 15, 2015, Google announced that it would stop producing the Google Glass prototype.

The incident where an entire pub harangued and ejected someone for wearing a pair is a standout. People generally don't want their private or public interactions and likenesses recorded or livesteamed by someone wearing a camera on their face, even though it's less obtrusive than someone walking about with a camcorder pointing it at everyone/thing they see.

[–] Brett@feddit.org 21 points 1 week ago

i'm shocked.

[–] fyzzlefry@retrolemmy.com 15 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Is there a way to scramble this stuff?

[–] ProfessorProteus@lemmy.world 24 points 1 week ago

If you see them in the wild, you can physically scramble them underneath your shoes.

[–] Widdershins@lemmy.world 9 points 1 week ago

Shakespeare once wrote Heavy is the head that wears the crown of infrared LEDs. LED and hat technology since Shakespeare's time has greatly advanced so any old Joe with an afternoon and elbow grease can at least blind the eggs instead of directly scrambling them.

[–] njordomir@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago

Maybe infrared LEDs blasting out light? I'm not sure what wavelengths the camera takes in.

[–] Geodad@lemm.ee 14 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

I hope they provide insurance. I'm clumsy. I might accidentally knock them off someone's face and step on them.

[–] sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 1 week ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

https://www.reflectacles.com/

Anti facial recognition glasses.

IR blocking lenses, reflective frames.

Another way to fuck with a lot of cameras is basically jerry rig some high powered IR LEDs onto your glasses frames, but that does also require a power source and ... i guess either a switch, or a battery that is easy to pop in and out.

Im not aware of anyone actually making and selling those, tho.

...

Basically, it can roughly be analogized to stealth tech for a jet:

Reflectacles... are roughly the equivalent of steath RAM and a bit of a mix of scattering radar waves and also active jamming.... visual range gets fucked by the reflective frames, ir blocking lenses... block and absorb IR.

The 'jerry right IR lights into your frames' option... is more like massive EM jamming done by an ELINT aircraft. You'll basically just show up as an indescirnable smudge spot, very detectable by cameras... but not identifiable by most cameras, if your IR lamps are strong enough to overload their sensors.

...

Neither of these are guaranteed to work in all situations.

Some cameras can handle massive IR intensity, others have algos that say, identify people not by facial recognition, but by gait analysis... exactly how you carry your self as you walk/run.

[–] trouble@lemm.ee 4 points 6 days ago (1 children)

These have been discussed in another sub and only work at night.

[–] sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 6 days ago

The reflectactles?

Well, thats good to know.

Maybe augment them with IR lamps?

Hrm, it just now occurs to me, if you were to do a jerry rigged IR lamp setup, it might make sense to have something like a dimmer switch, or alternate modes of flashing in various timed or random sequences... may be more or less effective depending on the distance to the kind of camera(s) you're trying to fuck with, balanced with overall battery life.

[–] TomMasz@lemmy.world 10 points 1 week ago (2 children)

No one wants Meta AI. Why does Zuck think they do?

[–] jqubed@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago

The investors want it, for now

[–] Chakravanti@monero.town 3 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

I doubt he cares what you think. He's not even guessing. He's just 'splaining shit to get suckers to think anything long enough to let his rig roll.

[–] HootinNHollerin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Anyone wearing those and coming up to me is getting them fucking slapped off

[–] JillyB@beehaw.org 0 points 6 days ago (1 children)

People say stuff like this online but it's just dumb. These glasses intentionally look like normal ray bans so you probably wouldn't notice. The only time I've noticed someone wearing them, it was a friend of mine so I'm not going to be an asshole. Are you an asshole?

[–] 01189998819991197253@infosec.pub 1 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Not sure it's an asshole move to protect one's privacy. It is, however, an asshole move to violate someone else's privacy. Is your friend an asshole?

[–] JillyB@beehaw.org 2 points 5 days ago (1 children)

I think he wears them because he sometimes rides a sketchy train line late at night and he wants to be able to record if something goes down. He has normal, vision correcting lenses in them so I can't just ask him to take them off. The best path forward to respect my friend while respecting my own privacy is to try to bring up the privacy concerns of those glasses and hope he gets the hint.

My main point is when people say things online like "if I see somebody with those I'd slap them off". No you wouldn't. You wouldn't do or say anything. The person who says that online is a keyboard warrior that's unfamiliar with real life confrontation. Your privacy is not being respected by getting into a fistfight, drawing the attention of everyone including the police. That's not how you would solve this conflict. That's how you become an asshole with a mugshot.

keyboard warrior

Hahahahaha!!! I love this, and am going to start using this

Regarding your friend, what I did in a similar situation was shove my friend to the ground, kick some dirt in his face, and stomp on his glasses, and he got the hint after that. Lol no. I didn't do that. He was always live streaming to his yt account using a helmet mounted GoPro. I told him that I won't be hanging around him when he did that, because I wasn't comfortable with the whole thing. He heard me, and shut that off when I was around, as well as gave me heads up when he was going to be with others that I might be with (so he can be ready to shut it off when I got there, or give me the opportunity to wear my fullface mask). He was awesome. I never got the need to ls everything, but whatever, he respected those who didn't want to be on it, and shut it off. Your friend has a better reason I think, but he should respect your desire to not be on it, and switch glasses to standard ones when you're around (quality glasses are cheap af nowadays, if you know where to look). All I am saying, is that respect goes both ways. I didn't suggest slapping them off his face (though I understand the sentiment lol). You seem like a good, respectful friend to him, and I hope he's the same to you.

[–] JoMiran@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 week ago (2 children)

They are doing this with all the Ray-Bans they've sold? That's crazy! There could be dozens of them.

[–] ReversalHatchery@beehaw.org 4 points 1 week ago

still too many

[–] Neverclear@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 week ago

Maybe even... several

[–] secret300 7 points 1 week ago

This isn't really news... We all knew this when it came out that it would collect everything it can. I mean it's Facebook, what else would they do?

[–] drspod@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 week ago