Linux isn't (just) better, it's also more FUN! : linux

[+] Iapar@feddit.org 22 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (2 children)

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[–] luciole@beehaw.org 12 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I ditched Windows for Linux some weeks ago precisely so that my OS stops fucking me over.

[–] grrgyle@slrpnk.net 6 points 3 weeks ago

Windows slaps you because what are you gonna do about it

Linux slaps you because be better than this

[–] MightyCuriosity@sh.itjust.works 7 points 3 weeks ago (4 children)

I feel this. I've been spending two hours trying to get my wireless Xbox controller to work.. Installing the xone packages causes freezes and kernel panicks..

[–] Carrot@lemmy.today 6 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Weird, I use arch (btw) and a generic Bluetooth driver and have had zero issues with my wireless Xbox controller.. Never needed xbox-specific packages

[–] MightyCuriosity@sh.itjust.works 3 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

I am using the Microsoft dongle. Maybe that's why..

[–] domi@lemmy.secnd.me 1 points 3 weeks ago

Yep, that's why. If your controller is new enough, use Bluetooth.

Pretty much connect & play via Bluetooth.

[–] Carrot@lemmy.today 1 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Ah, yeah. I don't even think MacOS supports the dongle, Microsoft has that pretty locked down. All modern wireless controllers should support Bluetooth connection so you could use that instead, a simple usb bluetooth dongle is pretty cheap. Just make sure to plug the dongle into a USB 2.0 port, bluetooth dongles will work considerably worse in USB 3.0+ ports. And if you're rocking a 360 controller or older (where bluetooth isn't a guarentee) I don't think xone is the driver you want to be using, instead use xpad-noone.

[–] MightyCuriosity@sh.itjust.works 1 points 3 weeks ago

It used to work under different distros tho. And the xone package is specifically designed for the dongle so I'm pretty sure it should work but just doesn't. For now Bluetooth might work but I'd be missing out on some features.

[–] FizzyOrange@programming.dev 2 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

Haha this is also the classic Linux experience. Any complaints about stuff not working properly get met with "It works for me" and "You're doing it wrong". Oh and don't forget "did you submit a bug report?" and "if you don't like it, fork it!".

[–] Carrot@lemmy.today 1 points 3 weeks ago

My comment was more for offering an option for connection that worked for me without any custom/hacky drivers. Despite my distro of choice, I hate gatekeeping and really dislike the folks you are referring to who like to pretend they were never a beginner. However, one of the lines you posted is generally good advice, which is to file a bug report for problems you are encountering that aren't documented. Not only will it potentially get you help, but will hopefully prevent your issue from being experienced by other users. Submitting bug reports is scary because people who maintain Linux projects can be rude to beginners, but I recommend just posting your best effort at a bug report, and usually someone will walk you through how to get the additional information needed to make your bug report proper.

[–] Eyedust@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Hmmm... that's strange. Afaik, Xbox controllers should be very well supported out of the box in most distros.

Ahhhh, I see. I did a bit of reading out of curiousity. You're looking to have it work wirelessly. Hmm. I see a forum post troubleshooting the same thing recommending a package called xpadneo. There's a github page for it here and it seems to have some package maintainers in a handful of distros (you can use the manual method if your distro isn't listed).

I checked it on the AUR, the most up to date maintained package was from last December, so the app seems fairly up to date(ish). If you want to see the forum post I was talking about its this one.

Good luck, hope you get it working.

[–] MightyCuriosity@sh.itjust.works 2 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I think that has been replaced with the xone package? The arch wiki recommended that at least. I am sometimes not sure I am ready for Linux. Been trying the past year to switch using a handful of different distros and they always have issues, a lack of features or I manage to break them. Like now my screen also flickers (probably HDR or vrr related) and I can't find anything about it. And sleep is broken. And visual glitches. You catch my drift? Haha

[–] Eyedust@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Hm, well it looks like others have been putting out some good troubleshooting tips for the controller. Linux should have kernel modules to deal with every controller and it's wireless. I know my Dualsense works wirelessly out of the box with everything because of the hid_playstation module

Sleep and hibernation is a well known common issue. I feel like its more hardware related than software, as some people have no issue and some need to do a little tinkering to get it to work. I know my PC will hibernate but not sleep. Or vice versa. I can never remember because I don't like my PC going to sleep on principle. I haven't done any troubleshooting because I don't use it anyway. I just know there are a ton of fixes floating around on the web for you to try.

Flickering and visual glitches is something I used to have. I used to get weird diagonal lines across my screen when certain colors would be in a certain position. There's a few things that could do this. First, if you're using an Nvidia card, be sure to use proprietary drivers on Linux install rather than Nouveau. Nouveau is getting better, but still isn't quite ready for gaming imo.

Second, you could try another video output. I fixed my diagonal lines by switching from Display Port to HDMI. My friend suggested it and I was sure it wouldn't work, but to my surprise it did. Third, if you're using Wayland you could try to switch to X11 (or vice versa if you're using X11).

[–] MightyCuriosity@sh.itjust.works 2 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Thank you for your very detailed comment. I love how helpful the Linux community is tbh. I was mostly ranting and didn't actually expect solutions. Thank you anyway! Sadly not using HDR and lower than 175Hz+3440x1440 is not why i bought my hardware so i don't think HDMI or x11 will do. Thank for the suggestions anyways!

[–] Eyedust@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 3 weeks ago

Ahhh, I see. There should be others that have run into the same issues you have. Don't give up! I'm sure you'll run across something that works.

Linux is a great community to be in. I will say that before it rose in gaming popularity, there was a lot of gatekeeping, though. But in the end, 99% of Linux users are just people that go, "I KNOW this can work, and I won't stop until either I break my system or I figure out how it works."

[–] ElectroLisa@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

You're using Microsoft's dongle or your own Bluetooth one?

[–] MightyCuriosity@sh.itjust.works 1 points 3 weeks ago

The Microsoft one!

[–] superkret@feddit.org 4 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Is there a FUN distro?
I used to love Slackware, cause it was completely different from all modern distros and I thought it didn't take itself too seriously.
Boy was I wrong when I peaked behind the curtain.

But are there others that are kinda made with a smile and a wink?
I was looking at Puppy and RebeccaBlackOS. but am open to suggestions.

[–] PolarKraken@programming.dev 3 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Boy have I got news for you...

[–] superkret@feddit.org 3 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

KDE 4?
What is this, Judy Garland Linux?

[–] PolarKraken@programming.dev 3 points 3 weeks ago

LOL

[–] ThrowawayPermanente@sh.itjust.works 4 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Plot twist: It's the Dwarf Fortress kind of fun

[–] FizzyOrange@programming.dev 1 points 3 weeks ago

Ha yeah ASCII Nethack.

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[–] Zedd_Prophecy@lemmy.world 2 points 3 weeks ago

It's fun once you get all your stuff working and know what you're doing. Even then it can be a challenge at times. I started in 1998 with suse Linux and it was just a brag back then.

[–] glitching@lemmy.ml 0 points 3 weeks ago

oh it's the "au lot" guy

[–] lightnsfw@reddthat.com -4 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

My experience with Linux is mostly "I need to do "thing". Spend like 10 minutes searching for how to do thing. Find the app that does it. Spend another 10 minutes figuring out how to navigate the UI. Try to do thing. There's some error due to the file being on a network share, or another package needs to be installed or it only works if you do it in one particular unintuitive way the developers came up with. Spend another 20 minutes to 3 hours looking online and trying to decipher documentation and trying shit to get it working. Probably about 50% successful overall.

I do not find it "Fun" the only reason I'm trying is because of the rate Windows is also breaking shit I do. Really just hating dealing with computers at all these days.

[–] communist@lemmy.frozeninferno.xyz 1 points 3 weeks ago

I have 15 years of linux experience and do infinite free troubleshooting on matrix, feel free to message me

[–] chasteinsect@programming.dev 0 points 3 weeks ago

My experience is just saying "Yeah I don't need this anyways" to anything that doesn't work and i can't / don't want to fix.

[–] pigup@lemmy.world -1 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Just duck.ai everything. It's mostly good advice.

[+] Lembot_0002@lemm.ee -7 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Yeah, moving files among FS and loading programs from disk to RAM is FUN! Or do you use OSes for something else?

[–] kbal@fedia.io 5 points 3 weeks ago

Computers? Fun!? Whatever, nerds.

[–] grrgyle@slrpnk.net 1 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

We make the colours on the glowing rectangle change in a pleasing way.

I like to game how I can use as few key presses as possible to get my desired colours to show up. Sometimes figuring that out is even more fun than the end result.

[–] Lembot_0002@lemm.ee 1 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Well, OS has nothing to do with rectangle coloring :) When I was a kid we didn't even have color rectangles. We had paper rectangles with holes. Holes are fun of course, but not very.

[–] grrgyle@slrpnk.net 1 points 3 weeks ago

Well, OS has nothing to do with rectangle coloring :)

I suppose that is true. I think most people view "the OS" as synonymous with the kernel and what associated applications enable you to do (obligatory GNU/Linux copypasta). That's usually how I think of it, though I know it's not accurate.

It's a bit like including the sinks and shower when you talk about "the plumbing" in your house. Depends on your experience and what level of abstraction you're thinking in. I see by your comments that you're using a much more rigorous definition of "OS." :)