furry_irl

Without AI, I just wouldn't have the illustrations

Well, this situation has existed for a long time. You can buy extant asset packs, no commission necessary. They’re not too expensive, either. As you noted they are just visual aids. Actually I happen to have a supermassive amount laying around from random humble bundles over the years, that were pack-ins with other items I wanted

No judgement or anything, it’s just far from an “AI or nothing” situation

See also Spiderweb Software's "Failing To Fail" talk: solo dev used the same assets in every game, and a constant complaint in the forums was that the graphics sucked. So once his sales were decent, he hired an artist to overhaul everything. The next game had the same complaints. He celebrated. Now he knew he could ignore that shit.

I can't speak for your party, but if I were in your campaign, I would vastly prefer silly doodles over some disposable AI image.

That's nice.

Meanwhile, the average person only sees results. They do not seem to share your fundamental aversion to how a JPG was made. They didn't experience whatever grand philosophical journey produced it. It doesn't need to be artisanal grass-fed human Art.™ It either provokes an emotional response, or not.

If AI slop is a text in the absence of subtext, it is still a text. Comes with death-of-the-author built in. And people can still say something with works they did not make themselves... as you're doing right now.

I know what I want to draw, but there's something missing between that idea and the paper. I can imagine what I want it to look like, in a way, but only as a vague reification of a concept, not as something made of lines and colors, and it's useless for trying to get it down on paper. I inevitably end up with something so far from my original idea that it's massively discouraging.

I expect that I'd develop a better eye for this sort of thing if I was to practice it for years, but it's very difficult to feel motivated to do that when you can't produce anything remotely like what you were going for.

If you have people that talk like this around you as an artist I think you need to find different people to be around that is the real take away here.

Also, I have genuinely never in my 29 years of life heard people say anything like this. So this post can kind of fuck off.

Yes, talent is oversold and used as an excuse to often HOWEVER there ARE differences in people's skill level and rate of learning. Especially if learning disabilities are involved.

I really really wanna draw regularly. And i practice regularly have for years. Ive gotten much better than couple years ago me but overall my art still sucks (others confirm not just the usual artist hates own work) and it's mainly because i have a learning disability that affects my spacial reasoning and ability to visualize shapes.

This may come as a surprise to some people but that makes drawing very difficult, i can't get proportions correct and I struggle to find shapes. My best drawings are ones that i practically traced the initial outline to get the shapes. AI generated art absolutely makes getting an idea out of my head more accessible. And i can then trace the outline of the ai art and draw the rest myself.

I know people hate it but just blindly saying "anyone can draw just do it bro" is basically just as worthless of an argument that ignores reality

Yeah it didn't take computers or anything to make art. More about the artists than the method right?

Conversely, Cocteau wrote "Film will only become an art when its materials are as inexpensive as pencil and paper." Cameras: pretty cheap. Things to point them at: haven't changed much.

If you're using this tech to replace pencil and paper, it's a hard sell. If you're using it to replace Hollywood, it's a steal.