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[–] Xerxos@lemmy.ml 17 points 12 hours ago (4 children)

See, moderate Democrats are just right wing. Republicans are closer to fascist. Your whole political spectrum has been wandering to the right for quite a while now. "Radical left" Democrats would be centrist anywhere else.

[–] tamman2000@lemm.ee 1 points 2 hours ago

That, and the democrats are at least competent when it comes to implementing neoliberalism...

I would prefer a government that is further left. I think it would be more moral and create better outcomes for the people, but until we have a chance for that I'll take competence...

[–] zarkanian@sh.itjust.works 8 points 12 hours ago

Ratchet theory: Republicans push things to the right, Democrats prevent movement to the left.

[–] Enfors@lemm.ee 4 points 12 hours ago

This is what I've been saying about US politics for a long time. They've got two parties - the far right, and the batshit crazy right.

[–] Vinstaal0@feddit.nl 0 points 11 hours ago

Nha man the US has politic spectrum, it has only right or left, democrate or replublic. People are either for Trump or against Trump. /s

[–] Kamsaa@lemmy.world 20 points 16 hours ago (5 children)

In France we have a saying "Si t'es pas de gauche, t'es de droite" i.e "if you're not a leftist, then you're on the right wing" meaning that if you do not explicitly reject the paradigm supported by the right then you're implicitly accepting it and thus indirectly support right wing and conservatism.

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[–] fwdbias@lemm.ee 20 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

The problem is they have all been extremely successful at demonizing the alternatives. People are hesitant to even think about left ideas because they have been told their entire lives that they are evil.

[–] Vinstaal0@feddit.nl 1 points 11 hours ago

My main issue with the far left parties in The Netherlands is that they seem to have no understanding of how the tax system works. They would increase social benefits and tax income and houses more. I have seen plans that if they went ahead with it would be taxed even more, but I already get no financial benefit from the government and we make below the median income.

Of course there are more points that they are better at and this post isn't about NL, but still. I believe that there are a lot of people who don't get financial benefit from left parties winning or from right parties winning. Unless they get rich. And then the more conservative option feels closer to home so ofc people vote more for that. That's why you see so many conservative right governments in the west.

At least that's my theory and one of the reasons why I try to vote on competent progressive middle people. At least when possibile.

[–] SoftestSapphic@lemmy.world 34 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] M1ch431@slrpnk.net 19 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 22 hours ago) (2 children)

Most Democrats don't realize that capitalism relies on actual slavery... presently. They don't know that the products they consume revolve around supply chains that even include child slavery. They don't know the actual effects of US imperialism, regime change, and third-world exploitation. They don't know that an estimated 40% of US agricultural workers are undocumented immigrants — modern slaves, with no human rights. I'm not being hyperbolic at all, but I suggest everybody do their own research.

Democrats are propagandized to not want to come to terms with the fact that even first-world workers are slaves. They may not be "owned", but damn near — everybody is getting a raw deal under capitalism besides those that extract the vast majority of value, wealth, power, influence, and control.

Democrats are subjected to intense campaigns that include gaslighting, propaganda, and coercion, while critical facts and the actual reality is veiled to them.

[–] Vinstaal0@feddit.nl 1 points 11 hours ago

The entire US system is built on top of consumerism. Not saying we are better in NL or Europe, but the US really exploded the consumerism and abused the angelo saxton mindset. Well and the US has been corrupt for a while, probably since it was founded that doesn't help either.

[–] toastmeister@lemmy.ca 7 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago)

Even US military policy and the reserve currency is designed to exploit emerging markets. The reason the US can print so much money every year to fund all its programs is because other countries are required to trade in USD so will buy it even though its being inflated so much, and if they decide to trade in something like gold dinars they get overthrown.

[–] BlameTheAntifa@lemmy.world 50 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (3 children)

They are the same as early-2000s Republicans.

They are not the same as 2025 Republicans, who are literally thieving, murderous Mussolini-emulating fascists.

To be fair, still Republicans… just two decades apart.

[–] PumpkinSkink@lemmy.world 19 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

I'll admit Trump is a lot clumsier about saying it out loud, but 2000s Republicans were absolutely on the same wave. Being virulently anti-anyone-dark-than-an-italitan, actively eroding free speech, and hating anyone who worked for a living has been standard conservative shit since at least the 1800s. If anything, the 2000s Republicans had more of a war-boner to boot. Trump did in fact bring the facism home a fair bit more openly, but let's not mistake a new hairdo for a new political movement.

[–] deathbird@mander.xyz 1 points 12 hours ago
[–] stabby_cicada@slrpnk.net 26 points 1 day ago (4 children)

The early 2000s Republicans are the same people as 2025 Republicans.

Some of them changed their beliefs. They moved right - or were moved right by an incredibly effective decades-long propaganda campaign.

And some of them didn't change their beliefs at all - they're simply more emboldened to express beliefs that weren't acceptable twenty years ago.

Give it twenty more years and Democrats will be where Republicans are now.

[–] nickiwest@lemmy.world 19 points 23 hours ago (2 children)

The current Democratic party is basically the Reagan Republicans with more emphasis on civil rights.

US politics have skewed further and further rightward for the last 50 years. On a global scale, Democrats are firmly center-right.

Bernie Sanders and AOC are barely left of center for the rest of the world, but in US politics they're "off the deep end."

[–] Vinstaal0@feddit.nl 1 points 11 hours ago

It doesn't help that the US has a two party system in practice and that people really vote for a person and not for their ideals.

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[–] nsrxn@scribe.disroot.org 17 points 1 day ago

dick Cheney endorsed kamala

[–] IndustryStandard@lemmy.world 12 points 1 day ago

Yeah, but 2000 Republicans blamed Russia for all their problems. And 2025 Democrats blame Russia for... Oh.

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[–] Maeve@kbin.earth 8 points 22 hours ago (1 children)
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[–] Ekybio@lemmy.world 108 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (8 children)

Found the source:

https://www.independent.co.uk/voices/biden-moderate-democrats-republicans-conservative-study-john-kasich-aoc-a9699431.html

Okay I read the source now and what I found funny is the part where people describe how "moderates" on dating apps are just conservatives. An observation I can regard as true in my experience, they are just self-aware enough to not be dismissed outright, but not self-aware enough to actually change a thing about themselves and become a better person.

Remembering how dating apps for conservative people tend to go down (only dudes, because what chick would engage with those guys...), I find it funny to see this echoed here again. There is, after all, no middle ground on most social issues anymore and we do good to see moderates as just another trick of conservative rebranding to obfuscate what they truly are.

[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 69 points 1 day ago (1 children)

There is, after all, no middle ground on most social issues anymore

There never was, unless you consider supporting desegregation but not interracial marriage a middle ground I guess.

[–] Doctor_Satan@lemm.ee 4 points 11 hours ago

Middle ground on social issues: "Separate but equal"

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