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[–] throwawayacc0430@sh.itjust.works 78 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Enemy of my enemy can still be enemy.

[–] Eldritch@lemmy.world 68 points 2 weeks ago (11 children)

Literally. Hamas has done basically nothing to help the people. The people of Gaza are the heroes Hamas and Israel are just a couple of monsters victimizing them.

[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world 24 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Hamas is the perfect partner for Israeli genocidaires. That's why Israel funded them in the first place.

[–] Merva@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 week ago

They definitely have a symbiotic relationship.

[–] Sunshine@lemmy.ca 19 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (2 children)

If Fatah was still in power, Israel would’ve had a much more difficult time in demonizing Gaza in their propaganda outlets.

[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 6 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

They also wouldn't need to, because the West wouldn't give a shit about Gaza without Hamas activities to put Palestine in the news. There's a reason Hamas won that election in 2006.

[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world 17 points 1 week ago (13 children)

They also wouldn’t need to, because the West wouldn’t give a shit about Gaza without Hamas activities to put Palestine in the news.

... Gaza was a big fucking deal back when Fatah was in power, and it was when Fatah was at the head of things that the peace process came closest to becoming reality, with significant Western interest and support.

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[–] BrokenGlepnir@lemmy.world 12 points 2 weeks ago (8 children)
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No you are supposed to PICK A SIDE. Don't you dare think for yourself /s

[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 6 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Literally. Hamas has done basically nothing to help the people.

Not directly, but it's no coincidence that the Palestine solidarity movement only expands after Israel uses Hamas as an excuse to slaughter Gazans. Since at least 2006 Hamas has been a very important catalyst for the advancement of the Palestinian cause (which isn't mutually exclusive with them being massive pricks, that's also true).

[–] Eldritch@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago (5 children)

That's like a Make-a-Wish kid thanking cancer for making them famous Etc. I think most Make-a-Wish kids would just wish that they didn't have cancer. Hamas has literally done nothing for the Palestinians since they managed to gain power. Just make things worse while working in cahoots with Israel.

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[–] Sunshine@lemmy.ca 6 points 1 week ago

Shouldn’t call them “heroes”…

[–] einfach_orangensaft@sh.itjust.works 21 points 2 weeks ago (6 children)

ngl probably russians, spewing hate online to further conflictand

[–] goat@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 week ago (5 children)

unlikely considering how small lemmy is. Waste of resources.

[–] InvertedParallax@lemm.ee 3 points 1 week ago (2 children)

No, they're here.

This is one place they test and refine candidate tactics, as well as roll them out to the more fringe on the left.

[–] goat@sh.itjust.works 8 points 1 week ago (1 children)

And your evidence of this?

[–] _cryptagion@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 1 week ago

Trust Me, Bro.

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[–] ArcaneSlime@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 1 week ago (16 children)

Not everyone is a russian troll, bad people exist everywhere.

And especially considering it's VTC, if I have to ascribe a group to them without proof, it's the Zizians.

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[–] SoftestSapphic@lemmy.world 20 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Hamas is a terrorist organization, same as the IDF, both of their beleifs depend on the extermination of the other.

I hope the peoples oppressed by these regimes can liberate themselves.

[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I think the biggest danger is the single sidedness of it all. You have to pick a side and then hate the other. Same thing is happening with India and Pakistan.

[–] scintilla@lemm.ee 5 points 1 week ago

I think the biggest danger is all the people that are dead...

[–] qaz@lemmy.world 17 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] Sunshine@lemmy.ca 10 points 2 weeks ago

I pay extra attention to him because his instance is the only active vegan one.

[–] goat@sh.itjust.works 16 points 1 week ago (2 children)

vegantheoryclub? lol, who goes to that instance?

[–] Sunshine@lemmy.ca 9 points 1 week ago

Anyone who has an opinion that differs from the VTC admin.

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[–] AllNewTypeFace@leminal.space 9 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Are the Haredi the ones who believe that Israel cannot exist before the Messiah comes?

[–] RowRowRowYourBot@sh.itjust.works 12 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Yes, nothing this person is saying is crazy if you understand the context of their sect's belief.

[–] Crashumbc@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago

Just because you understand it doesn't mean it's not crazy...

[–] Draconic_NEO@sh.itjust.works 9 points 1 week ago (3 children)

I almost forgot about Vegantheoryclub.org I remember controversy about them with !vegan@lemmy.world where one of the mods of that community was also an admin on there or had ties to the admin there and was using it to ban anyone who criticized her or downvoted her. She was posting a ton of reactionary content (some of which was misinformation) and even tried to ban LW admins from the community. They eventually booted her and she tried to use alts to add herself back but ended up getting all of them booted and then used an alt to try and create more drama.

Yeah I strongly recommend people stay away from vegantheoryclub, they're not a good instance. Their admin clearly has problems.

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[–] Sunshine@lemmy.ca 9 points 2 weeks ago

Could’ve left that part out…

[–] Sunshine@lemmy.ca 6 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

Of course he engages in name calling. He thinks I care much more about his community than I really do. I haven’t checked on VTC for weeks.

[–] neons@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

lmao I wonder who this one single downvote may be

what a pathetic islamist 🤣

[–] Sunshine@lemmy.ca 8 points 1 week ago (4 children)

In his words, a single downvote would be declared “vote manipulation”.

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[–] Deceptichum@quokk.au 6 points 2 weeks ago

Fucking scum.

[–] njm1314@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Man I don't care what anyone says nothing's going to redeem that fascist loving instance.

[–] licheas@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I dunno... maybe a few server fires?

how many servers do they have?

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