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cross-posted from: https://sh.itjust.works/post/38426659

The shooting of Robert Dotson, 52, in the northwestern New Mexico city of Farmington prompted a civil lawsuit by his family members, though public prosecutors found there was no basis to pursue criminal charges against officers after a review of events. The suit alleged that the family was deprived of its civil rights and officers acted unreasonably.

Hearing a knock at the door late on April 5, 2023, Dotson put on a robe, went downstairs and grabbed a handgun before answering. Police outside shined a flashlight as Dotson appeared and raised the firearm before three police officers opened fire, killing him. Dotson did not shoot.

“Ultimately, given the significant threat Dotson posed when he pointed his firearm at officers ... the immediacy of that threat, the proximity between Dotson and the defendant officers, and considering that the events unfolded in only a few seconds, the court finds that the defendant officers reasonably applied deadly force,” U.S. District Court Judge Matthew Garcia said in a written court opinion.

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[–] TheTechnician27@lemmy.world 95 points 1 week ago (1 children)

The judge also said the officers were entitled under the circumstances to qualified immunity — special legal protections that prevent people from suing over claims that police or government workers violated their constitutional rights.

And there it fucking is.

[–] kkj@lemmy.dbzer0.com 14 points 1 week ago

"Qualified immunity" has very few qualifications.

[–] boydster@sh.itjust.works 93 points 1 week ago (4 children)

Good thing everyone had a gun, for safety

[–] Evil_Shrubbery@lemm.ee 34 points 1 week ago (5 children)

Maybe things would turn out better if everyone wielded two guns, maybe three.

[–] NarrativeBear@lemmy.world 12 points 1 week ago (1 children)

With tariff's kids may only get one gun this Christmas. Instead of 2 or 3, or 14.

[–] Evil_Shrubbery@lemm.ee 5 points 1 week ago

Little kids age 17, 5, maybe even 10, 11, or 13.

[–] grrgyle@slrpnk.net 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Just one more gun, bro. Bro, I swear

[–] Evil_Shrubbery@lemm.ee 2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Nipple piercings that can't support, hold & fire a handgun are getting banned.

Genitalia that can't do the same too.

Also any birds on private property should let the owner of that property access their firepower & auto-targeting.

[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I think everyone should drive around in a tank, and shoot first, ask questions later

[–] Evil_Shrubbery@lemm.ee 2 points 1 week ago

What's with all the questions all of a sudden??

[–] RizzRustbolt@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago

Three Gun Style: Ham... BURGER!

[–] SouthEndSunset@lemm.ee 2 points 1 week ago

And everyone should have a bigger one than everyone else.

[–] postmateDumbass@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago

As if being unarmed prevents being shot dead by police.

[–] explodicle@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

They didn't need a gun to murder George Floyd.

[–] Aux@feddit.uk 0 points 1 week ago

And look at what kind of mess they ended up!

[–] zaph@sh.itjust.works 53 points 1 week ago (2 children)

So if I want to kill someone all I have to do is knock on their door late at night and wait for them to brandish a firearm?

[–] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 83 points 1 week ago

And be in the most important protected class: cop.

[–] surewhynotlem@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago

Only if you're a cop. If you're not a cop, you have to call the anonymous cop tip line and tell them you heard shouting and smelled marijuana.

Obviously don't do this. People could end up for real dead.

[–] kahdbrixk@feddit.org 32 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Looks like an endless spiral of gun violence. A bit like Schrödingers gun ownership law. You are allowed to own a gun and you are allowed to protect yourself and your family with a gun - but then you are not allowed to do so when the police is at your door, cause they have the right to shoot you if you own a gun and use it to protect yourself.

Just wow. But guns are never the problem, am I right?

Ah and of course ACAB, like seriously

[–] A_Union_of_Kobolds@lemmy.world 14 points 1 week ago (1 children)

The monopoly on violence is real

[–] Mediocre_Bard@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago

Hobbes was right.

[–] grrgyle@slrpnk.net 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Don't forget that you don't know if someone is actually a cop in the moment, or even if they are, you can't know if they're one of the trigger happy cops who are just looking to kill someone.

Police State Things ✨💅

[–] Guns0rWeD13@lemmy.world 10 points 1 week ago (1 children)

it seems to me that, given qualified immunity, and the cavalier attitude of cops with guns, it's reasonable to make preemptive strikes against law enforcement for your own self defense.

i don't think it's illogical to say that every dead cop makes this country safer.

[–] sndmn@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 week ago

I learned long ago there are only 2 kinds of cops.

Bad cops and worse cops.

[–] iAvicenna@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

USA, land of the free where you first encourage people to have their own firearms for self defense and then shoot them for it

[–] RizzRustbolt@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago

That's what he gets for checks notes... living at the wrong address.

Methinks that "qualifications" didn't factor in to this immunity at all.

[–] Aux@feddit.uk 1 points 1 week ago

Did you know that many states in the US have more gun deaths per capita than Ukraine during an active war?

[–] Gammelfisch@lemmy.world -3 points 1 week ago

Did the police cars have theirs lights on? If Dotson failed to notice that, then is paranoia prevailed too.

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