True AI does not and will not exist
this post was submitted on 09 Jun 2025
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My 2€ calculator obliterates a 200.000€ ferrari doing multiplications.
Attempting to badly quote someone on another post: « How can people honestly think a glorified word autocomplete function could be able to understand what is a logarithm? »
You can make external tools available to the LLM and then provide it with instructions for when/how to use them.
So, for example, you'd describe to it that if someone asks it about math or chess, then it should generate JSON text according to a given schema and generate the command text to parametrize a script with it. The script can then e.g. make an API call to Wolfram Alpha or call into Stockfish or whatever.
This isn't going to be 100% reliable. For example, there's a decent chance of the LLM fucking up when generating the relatively big JSON you need for describing the entire state of the chessboard, especially with general-purpose LLMs which are configured to introduce some amount of randomness in their output.
But well, in particular, ChatGPT just won't have the instructions built-in for calling a chess API/program, so for this particular case, it is likely as dumb as auto-complete. It will likely have a math API hooked up, though, so it should be able to calculate a logarithm through such an external tool. Of course, it might still not understand when to use a logarithm, for example.
That's on them for taking on the Atari 2600, where "the games don't get older, they get better!"
Man all these people coping, I thought chatgpt was supposed to be a generic one able to do anything?
It depends. Have you used it? If not - Yes! It does do . . . all the things.
If you have used it, I’m sorry that was incorrect. You simply need to pay for the upgraded subscription. Oh, and as a trusted insider now we can let you in on a secret - the next version of this thing is gonna be, like, wow! Boom shanka! Everyone else will be so far behind!
You know, when you put it like that, it kind of sounds like Scientology...
This is so stupid and pointless...
"Thing not made to solve spesific task fails against thing made for it.."
This is like saying that a really old hand pushed lawn mower is better then a SUV at cutting grass...
SUVs aren't marketed as grass mowers. LLMs are marketed as AI with all the answers.
Hear hear.
I'd be interested in seeing marketing of ChatGPT as a competitive boardgame player. Is there any?
Not necessarily that AI is marketed as a competitive board game player, but that AI is marketed as intelligence. This helps illustrate how clueless it really is.
There are plenty of geniuses out there who aren't great at board games. Using a tool not fit for task is more of an issue with the person using the wrong tool than an issue with the tool itself.
I do get where you're coming from though. There are definitely people who don't understand why a ChatBot wouldn't be good at chess.
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These tools are marketed as replacing lots of jobs that are a hell of a lot more complex than a simple board game.
These tools are marketed as replacing lots of jobs that are a hell of a lot more complex than a simple board game.
There isn't really a single sliding scale of "complexity" when it comes to certain tasks.
Given the appropriate input, a calculator can divide two numbers. But it can't count the number of R's in the word "strawberry".
Meanwhile, a script that could count the number of instances of a letter in a word could count those R's, but it couldn't divide any two numbers.
Similarly, we didn't complain that a typewriter couldn't put pepperoni slices onto a pizza.
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In other news: My toaster makes better toast than my vacuum.
If ChatGPT were marketed as a toaster nobody would bat an eye. The reason so many are laughing is because ChatGPT is marketed as a general intelligence tool.
Do you have any OpenAI stuff (ad, interview, presentation...) That claims it's AGI? Because I've never seen such thing, only people hyping it for clicks and ad revenue
I was very careful not to use the term AGI for this reason. General intelligence tool isn’t the same thing. It’s a much weaker claim, yet it’s also a far stronger claim than any purpose-built software. The ambiguity is part of their marketing strategy.
Question remains. Any marketing about it being general intelligence? Not general use, but general intelligence.
No, though there’s been plenty of marketing where they claim “we know how to build AGI.”
They have marketed ChatGPT as a general purpose AI from the very beginning, though the question of how to leverage that has remained open.
Your vacuum uses more power than a 150,000-person city just to clean an 8’ square rug?
That does suck.
Heh.
If llms are statistics based, wouldn't there be many many more losing games than perfectly winning ones? It's like Dr strange saying 'this is the only way'.
It's not even that. It's not a chess AI or a AGI (which doesn't exist). It will speak and pretend to play, but has no memory of the exact position of the pieces nor the capability to plan several steps ahead. For ask intended and porpoises, it's like asking my toddler what's the time (she always says something that sounds like a time, but doesn't understand the concept of hours or what the time is)
The fact that somebody posted this on LinkedIn and not only wasn't shamed out of his job but there are several articles about it is truly infuriating.
Is this just because gibbity couldn't recognize the chess pieces? I'd love to believe this is true otherwise, love my 2600 haha.
At first it blamed its poor performance on the icons used, but then they switched to chess notation and it still failed hard
That is baffling
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