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Brett Wilkins Jun 16, 2025

Flight-tracking websites showed dozens of Air Force aerial refueling planes departing from military bases in the United States and heading to Europe on Sunday, fueling speculation of direct U.S. involvement in the widening Israeli-Iranian war.

Military-focused news sites reported that around 30 U.S. Air Force KC-135R and KC-46A tankers were identified by flight-tracking software in what The Times of Israelcalled an "unprecedented mass deployment" to Europe.

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[–] Gammelfisch@lemmy.world 17 points 5 hours ago (2 children)

If the shit hits the fan, I want too see every single fucking MAGA voter at a US Army recruiting office signing up for 11 Bravo, Grunt Infantry.

[–] elucubra@sopuli.xyz 1 points 13 minutes ago

Grunt infantry is redundant

[–] FordBeeblebrox@lemmy.world 1 points 2 hours ago

Eh, maybe cav scout or something in the 92 family (NOT 92R), we don’t want those asshats walking around with an M4/203 and frags.

[–] Auth@lemmy.world 3 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

I'm seeing a lot of posts drumming up war hype and WW3 fears but there is nothing to fight. Iran is already cooked and no one is wants to do a ground invasion of Iran. Iran's allies have abandoned them. This is american security preparing for possible counter attacks and bombing targets, not a full on war. Iran is already at war with Isreal.

[–] the_wiz@feddit.org 3 points 2 hours ago

Ways that could escalate:

  • Iran finishes a nuke (or get one from somewhere [or use some other form of WMD]) and the regime decides to go out with a bang
  • China using the moment of distraction to try something funny with Taiwan
  • A new wave of international terrorism after the regime falls

So, even if that doesn't escalate up to full on WWIII there is enough shit on the horizon to be worried

[–] sudo@programming.dev 14 points 5 hours ago (2 children)

This would have to be the most unpopular war in US history and yet I think everyone Trump has surrounded himself with is telling him to do it.

[–] Naevermix@lemmy.world 1 points 33 minutes ago

I think Trump is attempting to scare Iran into accepting his nuclear deal. The only problem with this tactic is that Iran might not believe him as they know how deeply unpopular the war would be.

[–] smayonak@lemmy.world 4 points 3 hours ago (3 children)

This might sound insane but every single wartime president has gotten a huge boost to their approval ratings due to media networks circulating pure propaganda nonstop. Even NPR will start doing positive coverage.

[–] sudo@programming.dev 3 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

The consent manufacturing machine will rev up like it always does. There's already attempts to get us on board with a the fantasy of a regime change. As though that won't lead to another ISIS or Libya.

But I really don't think the average liberal boomer is going to fall in line behind Trump like they did Bush. And certainly not anyone younger. Dem leadership is probably already on board though.

[–] smayonak@lemmy.world 2 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

I don't know if he's serious about regime change in iran. He seems to negotiate from a raft of threats and lies. Hopefully it's all for show but if the war does go down my guess for approval ratings is over 60%. Not quite Bush I or ii numbers due to decline in news consumption.

[–] sudo@programming.dev 1 points 1 hour ago

I doubt anyone in power is deluded enough to think they can actually reinstate the Shah or something. They probably just want to bomb every piece if infrastructure in Iran and not worry about them for a few decades.

But regime change absolutely is the fantasy they are trying to sell liberals.

[–] Ledericas@lemm.ee 2 points 3 hours ago

the exception was covid, there was a huge downturn in recruitments, and they were getting worried. but military propaganda: top gun maverick helped boost numbers up. also the fact that they loosen some restrictions to join the military too. i was in a forum of people joining, during the obama years, and it was getting tougher to join. its mostly due to medical conditions that prevent people from joining.

[–] Hobo@lemmy.world 2 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago) (1 children)

It also isn't true. LBJs approval rating absolutely tanked because of the Vietnam war.

Johnson's approval ratings had dropped from 70 percent in mid-1965 to below 40 percent by 1967

https://millercenter.org/president/lbjohnson/foreign-affairs

[–] smayonak@lemmy.world 1 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

It was perceived that he was losing the war and lying to the public about the successes that they claimed to have achieved.

But winning wars, even unjust ones, always gets the president brownie points in the eyes of the public and corporations

[–] obinice@lemmy.world 2 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago)

commondreams.org is on my PiHole block list for some reason, is it a low quality news source, or some such? It's not a news outlet I've heard of, at least.

Edit: Ah, because it's a shell going to a CDN that scoops up data and such, seemingly.

www.commondreams.org (blocked www.commondreams.org.cdn.rebelmouse.com)

[–] smol_beans@lemmy.world 13 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Early 2000's era nostalgia goin real hard

[–] HugeNerd@lemmy.ca 6 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

Operation Desert Shield, redux, again. Hey at least the music of the era is relevant again

https://youtu.be/VI3C6MROOvY

[–] Soggy@lemmy.world 2 points 5 hours ago

The worst part of anti-war music is that it never stops being relevant. Blast off! It's party time!

[–] catty@lemmy.world 5 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

I fucking hate this rhetoric which is: OIL! GAS! BUY OIL! BUY GAS! KEEP PUTIN HAPPY! OIL! GAS!

No one was taking the 'war' between Israel and Iran seriously last week because the USA was like... "yeah, nah". Now, after a quick call from Putin and bam, all this BS about how the US is pandering for war when it's a nothingburger.

Remember kids, buy oil, buy gas and do as you're told.

[–] T00l_shed@lemmy.world 2 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

I think RATM had something to say about your last 4 words

[–] GeeDubHayduke@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 3 hours ago

"Thank you sir, may I have another!"

[–] kreskin@lemmy.world 8 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

A-10 movement always preceeds ground deployments. They moved those to Kuwait at the end of March. This has been coming for a while, its not an unplanned thing like it appears.

[–] plyth@feddit.org 1 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Where are those informations diskussed? If the information was out in March then Lemmy as a whole is not good at filtering the relevant news.

[–] kreskin@lemmy.world 2 points 53 minutes ago* (last edited 48 minutes ago) (1 children)

For A-10s theres probably 4 active squadrons, 2 national guard, 1 reserve 74th (Georgia), 75th (Georgia), 354th (Fairbanks), 190th (Boise national guard), 107th (michigan) is in Afghanistan

45th/47th reserve, not sure

They are phasing all A-10s out and replacing with other aircraft, f-16s for the 25th.

25th has a great insignia:

https://www.ang.af.mil/Media/Article-Display/Article/4146237/idaho-air-national-guards-fighter-wing-deploys/

https://taskandpurpose.com/news/a10-warthogs-middle-east-houthis/#%3A%7E%3Atext=The+troops+and+aircraft%2C+flown%2Cby+fighter+jets+and+bombers.

[–] plyth@feddit.org 1 points 34 minutes ago
[–] Jhex@lemmy.world 18 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago) (9 children)

worry not. remember this is TACO Don... he'll chicken out again

[–] sudo@programming.dev 4 points 5 hours ago (2 children)

This comment will age poorly if he don't.

[–] Jhex@lemmy.world 2 points 5 hours ago

that's not even in the list of things I'd consider giving a fuck about

[–] OrteilGenou@lemmy.world 1 points 5 hours ago

It'll just change to TOCO, Trump Occasionally Chickens Out

[–] NikkiDimes@lemmy.world 8 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago) (1 children)

He also said if he was president there'd be no more wars, so this obviously totally super duperly cannot happen.

[–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 6 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

It's not a war, it's a special military operation.

[–] NikkiDimes@lemmy.world 2 points 5 hours ago

Only for a day

[–] kreskin@lemmy.world 5 points 7 hours ago

He openly calls service members suckers and losers. I dont know that he much cares whats done with them.

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[–] MetalMachine@feddit.nl 27 points 12 hours ago

We need to fix the voting system. ALL pacs should be banned and campaign spending should be limited.

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