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[–] j0ester@lemmy.world 4 points 10 hours ago

Even a town I used to live in with Donald voters, more than half the town couldn’t get speed over 5 Mbps - they had to use Satellite. And the other half? We had over 800 Mbps. 2 years after Covid, the other town finally has it. Ridiculous.

[–] some_guy 30 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Rural voters overwhelmingly voted for this. I have no sympathy. I'm downloading shit fast as fuck. And I'm using my symetric fiber to seed 24/7 the following torrents: CDC data removed from gov websites, data leak from Patriot Front (a local fascist movement in USA), and war crimes committed by IDF in Gaza. Plus a lot of porn.

Cheers, shitbags! You got what you voted for.

[–] unphazed@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Frontier trounced all over Xfinity here because of this program. I now have fiber vs 300mbps (400 plan). So many blue dots around WV but the koolaid is in the water.

[–] sommerset@thelemmy.club 2 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

Could u rephrase this in a language normal people can understand?

[–] unphazed@lemmy.world 2 points 9 hours ago

Frontier new kid in town, big company out money as people switch. Faster internet. Republicans dominate the state but not everyone is mindless and few leftists/centrists dot the state.

[–] Etterra@discuss.online 50 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The funniest part is that it's his voters lol

[–] themurphy@lemmy.ml 27 points 1 day ago (2 children)

The news will probably never reach them.

[–] gabbath@lemmy.world 1 points 9 hours ago

Not at broadband speeds, that's for sure.

[–] Joelk111@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago

And if it does, they'll thank him for helping them to disconnect.

[–] dukethorion@lemmy.world 26 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Funds allocated throughout the years have NEVER actually gone to providing/increasing broadband in rural areas.

[–] PumaStoleMyBluff@lemmy.world 4 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago)

Not true, just got 2Gb fiber in rural WI through a federal grant allocated 2 years ago.

[–] oppy1984@lemm.ee 22 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Not entirely, my ISP is a family owned regional cable company and they took the grant and have rolled out fiber across multiple counties.

I get what you're saying about the mega corps, yeah they just pocket a lot of the money. But the smaller ISPs are being smart and investing in their infrastructure to be able to complete.

[–] unphazed@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Frontier took the money and said, "Watch us trounce the big boy monopoly here"

[–] chronicledmonocle@lemmy.world 12 points 1 day ago

Never say never. There are actually several areas where I've seen fiber build out from government grants.

That said, they are EXCEPTIONALLY rare and typically scumbag ISPs pocket the money with no consequences, since nobody who writes these laws sets up consequences for failing to deliver.

[–] mctoasterson@reddthat.com 84 points 2 days ago (6 children)

To be fair, this federal program was a cluster eff since they started it in about 2010. It passed a bunch of grant money through to the states, which all did different "things" with it. Most held semi-public meetings and planning sessions for 5-10 years or wrote detailed planning documents but never delivered any physical infrastructure (actual results to the residents).

[–] Landless2029@lemmy.world 68 points 2 days ago

Some states / towns hired ISPs who just pocketed the money with no consequences. Some towns even got fed up with no progress and started their own ISPs only to get sued by said corrupt ISP. Looking at you Verizon FiOS.

[–] Buelldozer@lemmy.today 27 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I'm confused. The article is talking about "BEAD" which wasn't passed until 2021. You must be talking about a different program.

[–] madcaesar@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

Yea he is, but it's probably the same telecom handout bullshit like the other program.

Trump is a piece of shit, but every program he cuts is not necessarily wrong. Even a broken clock is right twice a day.

[–] forrgott 33 points 2 days ago

Still no justification for this money to be funneled to felon musk.

[–] turmacar@lemmy.world 12 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

I'm sure that there are examples of actually wasted money, but just putting it out there that planning is fucking important. There have been several high profile projects, like Texas high speed rail, where planning was the hard part and the project got canceled as they were ready to break ground because "there was no progress". Cue* Republicans "the government does nothing" after they stopped anything from happening. Infrastructure cannot operate on election cycle timelines.

Digging in the ground and integrating with existing infrastructure isn't just a plug and play operation. Leases and liens need to be sorted out. Estimates of current and future demand needs to be sorted out so you don't install useless networks. Fiber isn't that heavy, but "can the existing conduits under bridges/roads/etc support it and/or do they have room to without a complete replacement" isn't a trivial question for backbone lines.

Winging it just causes more problems as you find things you didn't anticipate and cause delays while having to continue paying contracts so work can resume once the delay is cleared. If you don't, the contractor is on to their next job and unavailable for an effectively random amount of time. While everyone is mad at you that "no work is being done".

It could be done faster, but it would cost more. Because planning is really important to keep multi-million/billion dollar projects accountable and on track.

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[–] SoftestSapphic@lemmy.world 7 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Speak for yourself.

My city is rolling out fiber.

[–] Buelldozer@lemmy.today 5 points 2 days ago

I'm in Wyoming and fiber started rolling out in multiple cities with multiple different providers in each city two years ago. They got to my house earlier this year so I now have a 2Gb/s connection.

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[–] HugeNerd@lemmy.ca 10 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Yeah but does Iran have nukes? Checkmate!

[–] hornedfiend@sopuli.xyz 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I DoN’t CaRe wHaT yOu sAy. NiRaN MoST DefFiNiTeLY PRoBAblY HaS NUkEs!

[–] HugeNerd@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Well, I'm honestly not convinced they don't. I mean, with renewables popping everywhere and providing a surplus of clean renewable non-geopolitical electricity, why would you pursue nuclear for the energy? You don't even need to build an actual nuclear explosive, you could just make endless dirty bombs.

Iran could cover itself in solar and wind and there you go. They'd have all the electricity they need, could probably build most of the shit themselves too, and have not just plausible, but total, nuclear deniability.

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

If I ran had nukes, the US wouldn't be bombing it as we speak.

[–] HugeNerd@lemmy.ca 1 points 9 hours ago

Don't think it matters when Israel's sugar bully is always there.

[–] RedditIsDeddit@lemmy.world 24 points 2 days ago (5 children)

"America First" is one of his biggest lies

[–] j0ester@lemmy.world 2 points 10 hours ago

It was always a damn lie with the Republicans. “wE nEeD to HeLP OuR CiViLiANs FiRST.” They mean rob them first.

[–] acosmichippo@lemmy.world 8 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

chanted by the same people flying "Don't tread on me" flags. what a joke.

[–] electric_nan@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

"They say America first, but what they mean is America next!"

[–] ShaggySnacks@lemmy.myserv.one 8 points 2 days ago (1 children)

What they mean was America first for the rich.

[–] electric_nan@lemmy.ml 8 points 2 days ago

https://genius.com/Woody-guthrie-lindbergh-lyrics

"America First" was a slogan used by US fascists (like Charles Lindbergh) before WW2. The more things change, eh?

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[–] Pantsofmagic@lemmy.world 26 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I would think the tech bros running things would want more people to train their models on.

[–] RobotZap10000@feddit.nl 28 points 2 days ago (2 children)

I would think that Muskrat would like more customers for his satellite internet business.

[–] henfredemars@infosec.pub 21 points 2 days ago (1 children)

This is exactly what some of my extended family uses because there’s literally no other option. Not even cellular.

This isn’t even up in the mountains or something. This is just rural Alabama where kids are struggling to do homework because they just don’t have access, and it all but guarantees that their technology skills will remain woefully outdated.

I remember when they had DSL not that long ago and I would turn off updates on everything because it was a complete waste of time to attempt.

[–] atomicbocks@sh.itjust.works 8 points 2 days ago (1 children)

My grandparents lived in rural OK and had dial-up until 2018 when they finally were able to get a 2mbps DSL line. It really wasn’t much faster than the dial-up.

[–] amorpheus@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

You mean it wasn't able to be saturated?

As slow as 2MBit/s is, relatively speaking, it's still magnitudes better than dial-up.

[–] atomicbocks@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 day ago

Yes, I mean it never hit its rated speed. Also that many modern sites didn’t work any better than they did on the dialup anyway.

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[–] tehn00bi@lemmy.world 13 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I got mine, even though it’s 1 gb down 300 mb up, but it’s still rural fiber.

[–] dil@lemmy.zip 9 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)
[–] Geodad@lemmy.world 15 points 2 days ago

Capitalism perverts all good intentions. It twists them to make a quick buck.

It's a cancer on society.

[–] vext01 7 points 2 days ago (8 children)

What's an average Internet connection like in the USA? How many megs down?

[–] falynns@lemmy.world 1 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago) (1 children)

10gig symmetrical for $50/month on Sonic fiber. Still too expensive but I can't believe the rest of the US pays so much for so little, and worse thinks it's a great deal. Typical US speeds are 30 years behind but Americans are so very, very stupid.

[–] vext01 1 points 11 hours ago

10 gig is amazing!

[–] faythofdragons@slrpnk.net 7 points 2 days ago (6 children)

I'm getting 270 down and 40 up. Fucking comcast has a monopoly in my area, so I'm paying $120/month for it unless I want to go back to DSL.

[–] acosmichippo@lemmy.world 7 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

most areas have ISP monolopies, which is somewhat understandable given the high infrastructure costs etc. For that reason they should be regulated as utilities, but aren't because high speed internet isn't legally "essential" in the year of our lord 2025.

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[–] MeaanBeaan@lemmy.world 5 points 2 days ago

Heavily depends on where you live. I live near a big city on the east coast in a largely Blue state. I have 1 gig FiOS internet (up and down). In my area Comcast and Verizon compete for customers so our speeds here are alright. But there are plenty of areas in the US that have absolutely abysmal internet. Either because the area is rural so not much infrastructure has been built up or because the ISP in that area holds a monopoly on the market and doesn't have to increase speeds to keep their customers. I've heard horror stories of people being stuck with like sub 10mbps because there are just no other options.

[–] imTIREDnhungryboss@lemmy.ml 5 points 2 days ago

not as fast as some third world countries, but here we worship our soon to be hanging from a fuckin noose wealthy fucks, I will fight any billionaires one on one anytime

[–] Psythik@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

I pay $60/mo for 1100 down, 50 up with Verizon.

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