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[–] Melatonin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago) (1 children)

Wasn't the great leap forward by Mao the biggest mass murder in world history, according to historians not governments?

Doesn't whitewashing that amount to Holocaust denial level cultural blindness?

I know nothing, quick Google search.

[–] john_brown@hexbear.net 2 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

Do you understand the difference between causing a famine unintentionally and doing mass murder?

[–] Melatonin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 44 minutes ago* (last edited 42 minutes ago) (3 children)

"Oops! I killed 15 million people, but it was an accident. My bad. Who knew forcibly moving all the farmers to the city and making them work in factories would cause a famine?"

-Mao, probably

PS: 15 million is the low end number. 15-55 million is the commonly accepted number, with some estimates as high as 70 million.

At some point you'd think he'd look around and notice.

[–] john_brown@hexbear.net 2 points 38 minutes ago (1 children)

So you think Mao decided starving his own people benefited him? Why?

[–] ThirdConsul@lemmy.ml 2 points 31 minutes ago

I'm sorry, but why would that matter? We tend to judge people by their actions, not their intent, when it comes to mass deaths.

Right?

Right?

[–] ShimmeringKoi@hexbear.net 2 points 43 minutes ago* (last edited 39 minutes ago)

Lol what's your source on this, the black book? Also do you think Mao was like the king of China or?

[–] bort@hexbear.net 0 points 31 minutes ago* (last edited 26 minutes ago)

They did notice, and very quickly changed policy.

The Great Chinese Famine was an enormous tragedy but it very obviously wasn't deliberate.

Also important to note, after a constant cycle of famine throughout its history, this was China's last. The CPC worked hard to make sure something like it would never happen again.

[–] umbrella@lemmy.ml 5 points 4 hours ago

wow this one rustled some jimmies

[–] dessalines@lemmy.ml 30 points 11 hours ago (5 children)

For all the orientalists below:

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