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[–] stinky@redlemmy.com 2 points 5 hours ago
[–] renegadespork@lemmy.jelliefrontier.net 18 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago) (1 children)

For those that view this particular version of the pride flag redundant: Yes, you are technically correct. The rainbow is supposed to symbolize inclusion.

However, recent political movements seek to divide and exclude particular groups from the queer community, namely trans people. By choosing a flag that explicitly includes those colors, you are explicitly denouncing that division.

[–] Lucidlethargy@sh.itjust.works 5 points 8 hours ago (3 children)

And by choosing to accept the rainbow flag as all inclusive, you also denounce division.

The idea that we need to specifically call out everyone in need of coverage is asinine, and in itself divisive.

[–] jumjummy@lemmy.world 2 points 2 hours ago

This flag is better since there are a surprising number of gay people who are anti-trans. Completely bananas if you ask me.

[–] renegadespork@lemmy.jelliefrontier.net 5 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago)

This is the same argument people use for “all lives matter” and anti-DEI.

In a perfect world, it should be equal, but to make this argument is ignoring the reality that it’s not.

[–] AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world 6 points 8 hours ago

Had to reread that headline 3 times to not have my brain turn "presidential castle," into "presidential cattle."

[–] TimewornTraveler@lemmy.dbzer0.com -1 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

Are these gestures empty or meaningful?

[–] meliaesc@lemmy.world 1 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

If the White House in the US raised the same flag today, would it have meaning?

[–] TimewornTraveler@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 54 minutes ago* (last edited 53 minutes ago)

It absolutely would not. There would need to be something behind it.

Would it have meaning during a Democratic government though?

[–] TheLeadenSea@sh.itjust.works 38 points 1 day ago (4 children)

The rainbow flag is already trans inclusive, the rainbow includes everyone

[–] meliaesc@lemmy.world 4 points 7 hours ago

My autisitic son insists that pink isn't a real color and has no business being included in any rainbow.

[–] huppakee@feddit.nl 8 points 19 hours ago

I agree, we dont need more than the rainbow flag. But I feel people can put on it whatever they want. Except their genitals maybe.

[–] Aatube@kbin.melroy.org 30 points 1 day ago (2 children)

With the current significance of the movement represented by the "LGB Alliance" I don't think it's undue to stress the T.

[–] Lucidlethargy@sh.itjust.works 7 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago) (1 children)

LGBTQ+ is 100% covered by the rainbow flag. It is absolutely ridiculous to claim otherwise.

This is like insisting the American flag is only for Republicans.

[–] Aatube@kbin.melroy.org 2 points 8 hours ago

I'm not saying it's not covered; I'm saying the "progressive" flags emphasize it in a time when some are attempting to co-opt the rainbow to marginalize them.

[–] RageAgainstTheRich@lemmy.world 15 points 1 day ago (1 children)

But its nice to have the actual colors on it though. I like switching between the 2 because they both look really nice.

[–] Aatube@kbin.melroy.org 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

As a matter of color I don't like the abrupt transition from pastel cyan to brown... but it's nice for what it means.

I like this Julia Feliz diagonal one much better: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:New_Pride_Flag_by_Julia_Feliz_2018.svg

idk it doesn't seem so jarring to me that way. Maybe because the absence of the bend avoids emphasizing the contact and thus contrast with the pastel cyan.

[–] RamblingPanda@lemmynsfw.com 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

To me, this looks like it would cancel the rainbow.

[–] Bgugi@lemmy.world 2 points 8 hours ago

Definitely a strong motif of "covering up" the original rainbow/message. Black is by far the largest element. And the fold in forward implies the symmetry of the trans flag, this just completely ignores it.

[–] Churbleyimyam@lemm.ee 2 points 1 day ago

Coolest flag

[–] Lemminary@lemmy.world -2 points 19 hours ago (3 children)

Did it have to be one of those ugly and redundant derivatives of the perfectly fine rainbow flag of diversity?

[–] lietuva@lemmy.world 1 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

whoever designed the flag probably figured they have to add all the colors, so all of them would feel included and none of them would feel offended

[–] Natanox@discuss.tchncs.de 14 points 16 hours ago

Given fascism currently focuses on trans and black/non-white people and actively tries to separare them from the community: Yes. Yes it did.

[–] yeather@lemmy.ca 5 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

The black and brown also represent a completely different movement, it should just be the rainbow flag.

[–] Bgugi@lemmy.world -2 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

But did you know black people can be gay? Betcha didn't. Glad we added that to the flag to remind you.

[–] yeather@lemmy.ca 1 points 3 hours ago

Ok, but did you know that Mongolian people could be gay? Where is there stripe? Did you know Comanche Native Americans couls be gay? Where is theres? Did you know Irish people could be gay? Where is there stripe?

[–] Fleur_@aussie.zone 0 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

This flag fucking sucks. You'd think gay people could design a flag worth a damn but all they've done is slap ugly ass colour conflicts on an already colour saturated base.

Like take a look at the original lesbian flag before suddenly the community decided corporate branding was ideal theme to mimic.

[–] Bgugi@lemmy.world 2 points 8 hours ago

It's the ol' "keep adding elements until everything is explicitly included" problem in vexillology.

But hey, it's a great way to keep selling new merch every few years...

[–] loomy@lemy.lol -3 points 21 hours ago
[–] dinren@discuss.online 0 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I read “cattle.” Enjoy.

[–] Lemminary@lemmy.world 3 points 19 hours ago

Some cows are gay, Steven.

[–] huppakee@feddit.nl 1 points 20 hours ago

I'd watch that