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[-] nulldev@lemmy.vepta.org 72 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

A significant number of subreddits shifting to private caused some expected stability issues, and we’ve been working on resolving the anticipated issue.

How in the world does setting a bunch of subs to private crash the website?

[-] andrew@radiation.party 52 points 1 year ago

High-scale software is complex, sometimes there are edge cases where weird unexpected stuff happens. This isn’t a situation they would normally run into.

[-] CycliCynic@lemm.ee 5 points 1 year ago

It absolutely is something they would normally run into. I work on maintaining a massive application; think 60+ teams of 6, each extremely specialized and minimal overlap. Almost 75% of my job is predicting issues and avoiding them. Peer testing draws on this a ton as well. They just continue to plainly show that they don't care. Time and time again, year after year, they continue to have the exact same issues and do fuck all about it.

[-] LittlePrimate@feddit.de 7 points 1 year ago

Why would they normally run into 6000+ subs going private? I'm sure they tested that their code can generally handle some (usually smaller) subs going private, but the number and size of the subs going dark isn't a normal scenario and I doubt anyone would have assumed such a successful and coordinated protest involving some of the biggest subs would even be possible a few months ago.

[-] fireshaper@fedia.io 47 points 1 year ago

Someone on Tilde posted that they used to work for Reddit and the way they have the front page set up to pull your subscribed subreddits and the ones that you might like to read from is spaghetti code and very brittle.

[-] withersailor@aussie.zone 32 points 1 year ago

It's the user/moderator fault. If they would just keep working without pay there wouldn't be any problem. /s

[-] Fearofthefamiliar@beehaw.org 20 points 1 year ago

honestly I figured it'd be the result of all those people running deletion scripts on their accounts

[-] NoxiousPluK@lemmy.blahaj.zone 26 points 1 year ago

This is probably it. Also ArchiveTeam is archiving Reddit as a high priority target so lots of bots scraping it

[-] catastrophicblues@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 year ago

God bless archive.org. We'd be so screwed without their efforts.

[-] fishhf@reddthat.com 7 points 1 year ago

Maybe their caching doesn't work for private subreddits

[-] amortized_cost@beehaw.org 4 points 1 year ago

It's not crashing. It's just more than 7-80% of the requests getting request error because most of the subreddits went private. It sure does looks like crash to a completely uninformed users but it's not a crash as we think.

[-] manitcor@lemmy.intai.tech 3 points 1 year ago

they havent worked in a world where the site is not constantly slammed in years. they built the thing to be pre-loaded i bet.

[-] Generator@lemmy.pt 35 points 1 year ago

Just one thing, must be indefinitely not 48h, otherwise nothing will change. A year have 365 days, 48h it's a weekend, if subreddits come back after 48h it's nothing happened.

[-] LimitedBrain@beehaw.org 9 points 1 year ago

I think that stating it as 48 hours was smart. Because if subreddits start saying it's indefinite, then they have time to start replacing mods and shutting the protest down. Whereas here, 48 hours will pass. They lose a lot of money in just 2 days. And if nothing changes, you'll likely see decreased quality and/or continued protest.

I think it left room at the table for reddit to cooperate. It's a common bargaining thing.

[-] NexNecis@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 year ago

I agree with you and I fear that is exactly what will happen.

[-] FiskFisk33@lemmy.one 34 points 1 year ago

I saw a lot of people saying they used bots to rewrite their entire post history to things like "fuck /u/spez"

I'm thinking that amount of comment editing might be quite the spike on the servers.

[-] lawliot@beehaw.org 16 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I did that, but not "fuck u/spez" because that might gey the comment deleted altogether making the edit meaningless. Instead I edited to say the comments been deleted in protest against the API changes.

[-] Gork@beehaw.org 14 points 1 year ago

If enough of us do it, entire comment chains will be illegible lol

[-] BioHall@lemmy.pt 30 points 1 year ago

How much spaghetti is your code if most of the communities switching to private fucks up your website?

[-] nulluser@lemmy.world 29 points 1 year ago
[-] Talidorn@sh.itjust.works 23 points 1 year ago

I fully committed. My 10+ year account is now deleted.

[-] patchymoose@beehaw.org 6 points 1 year ago
[-] Sabata11792@beehaw.org 17 points 1 year ago

Blew up my 11 year account. Lemmy got memes and the porn showed up as expected. No reason to go back.

[-] pipe01@lemmy.pipe01.net 14 points 1 year ago

Porn, porn never changes

[-] greyscale 6 points 1 year ago
[-] shadowtux@fedia.io 2 points 1 year ago

Don't worry. It'll pop up to you in no time 😂

[-] FinasCupil@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 year ago

H-How does one find the porn…

[-] misguidedfunk@beehaw.org 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I didn’t delete my account but I did use redact to change the titles and comment to reflect I left because of the api changes.

I tried redact, but it wouldn't load. Just froze at "loading".

[-] kernspalt@feddit.de 23 points 1 year ago

thats kinda hilarious

[-] EgoNo4@feddit.de 20 points 1 year ago

Let it burn to fucking ash!

[-] ipkpjersi@lemmy.one 15 points 1 year ago

That was honestly hilarious, they deserve those problems and more.

[-] sazey@fedia.io 14 points 1 year ago

Our collective swan song of fuck /u/spez, from Hell's heart I stab at thee.

[-] Powderhorn@beehaw.org 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)
[-] StrayCatFrump@beehaw.org 11 points 1 year ago
[-] peanuts4life@lemmy.blahaj.zone 9 points 1 year ago

Good riddance!

[-] NotMerritStone@beehaw.org 6 points 1 year ago

I suppose the protest may have played a role in the site going down but I thought the outage was mostly due to the cloudflare issues from earlier in the day.

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