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A universe expanded with recurring themes of revolutions which are fought for and eventually lost periodically across multiple eras is not ideal for continuity.
On the contrary I actually like this.
The way I see the Star Wars timeline is as a February revolution without an October revolution because all the most important revolutionaries that would have continued fighting to make sure a just society is created all died.
What you got were the fuckwit liberals coopting the work of revolutionaries and basically just attempting to build the Republic all over again, which is just as flawed if not more so due to lack of resources as the original Republic was.
This leads to the fascists successfully regrouping and the absolutely insufferable liberal resistance seen in the sequel trilogy. The only fucked up part of the sequel trilogy is that fascists lose, they should have won and fascism should have descended upon the galaxy again as it is currently descending again in our world.
Had Nemik, Luthen, Andor, Guerrera and others survived the revolution they would have gone on to fight a second revolution against these liberals and you'd have had a communist society built upon the foundations of social theory written by Nemik and revolutionary theory conceived by Luthen. Had both of these people survived to make it to Yavin the entire Rebel forces would have been trained in a revolutionary ideology while they had the chance to.
Don't make me experience hauntology for a fictional sci-fantasy universe goddammit
That is exactly how I see it. A revolution that was stolen. It has nowhere to go but around the same cycle again until the revolution is completed or the entire galaxy is destroyed.
Andor honestly fixes the bad writing of Disney's sequels. I don't know whether it was intentional or not but it really locks in just how and why the republic is so dogshit after the rebellion. It only took a few simple scenes of seeing how these fucks talked about Luthen to really understand how bad they are. It reminds me so much of how liberals talk about communists.
But this time, Zuko will be a GOOD fire lord!
Also maybe it's a franchise made by people who are dumb ass liberals
There's that speech that Mon Mothma makes in the second series of Andor and the last series of Rebels that is to me, like, the moment it stops being a rebel alliance and becomes the alliance to restore the republic.
Oooo that is a good way to look at it! Yes, the revolutionaries are not creating their own thing after destroying the empire, they were coopted into restoring the republic. It's the best way to illustrate how things could have been different if more of the people who spearheaded the revolution in the first place had survived to say "this isn't what we are fighting for".
It's also pretty obvious why everyone at that table was talking dirty about Luthen. They knew he would be a barrier to their own goals as an outsider. The same could be said of their interpretation of Saw as an "extremist". Luthen never had such a negative interpretation of Saw because really they mostly shared the same goal compared to the Republic restoration troupe.
On the contrary I actually like this.
Oh I like it, too, and I agree with your statement, it's just that hopping between multiple eras when building upon the original story makes it a little hard to avoid creating some additional plot holes, but from a certain perspective it does make sense how liberals would co-opt the revolutionary movement just to recreate the old republic and ultimately fail again.
I honestly didn't expect my comment to create a discussion. :o
I think we really really like to talk about Andor so every opportunity becomes a discussion