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[–] TreadOnMe@hexbear.net 45 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago) (1 children)

The thing about the Epstein stuff was that it is yet another (as if we needed it but still) revelation that leadership of both sides of the party essentially believe in the same thing, the pure exercise of power for it's own sake.

On the side of the Democrats it placed stark contrast on their lip service to the MeToo movement, where they had looked the other way for years as some of their largest donors and political supporters were open-secret and even sometimes convicted pedophiles and abusers, with people like Jeffrey Epstein having huge ties to Silicon Valley, the Democratic Party, the Ivy League, and the high art world.

On the side of the Republicans, their association with these kinds of people had been in the open for years, but their complete capitulation to Trump, who was a very close Epstein associate, indicated that the party was diving directly into a land of pure fantasy, with cynical power grabbing, a complete departure from any reality outside of their own head canon, but then just capitulating to whatever Trump wanted them to believe, who is himself more related to a Democratic power grabber. Republicans are completely sniveling spineless cowards who serve whoever they believe to be their political master.

Epstein was basically what is fucked about both parties all wrapped into one tight ball.

[–] Keld@hexbear.net 14 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

The fact that #MeToo fucking died as soon as Biden was accused will never not irk me.

[–] TreadOnMe@hexbear.net 7 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago) (1 children)

It was never used by the Democrats anything but cynically. They literally used it first to target progressive politicians, while still praising SNL.

[–] Keld@hexbear.net 5 points 11 hours ago

Of course Democrats as an organisation were never going to earnestly care about the right of survivors, ffs they were still trucking bill clinton around. (Still are I guess) But the entire momentum of the movement just died immediately as soon as Biden was targeted, the media support faded, the celebrities shut the fuck up real quick, and some of the original names in the movement started distancing themselves from it.

[–] Wheaties@hexbear.net 42 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Chuds don't really care, and I kinda don't think this means anything will change for the US right as a movement. For them, the Yankee Culture Game is defined by taking the opposite position to your "opponents". Now that this is something Republicans are practically indistinguishable from Democrats on, it's gonna fade into the background with the rest of the D.C. consensus. To be dragged out for shallow point scoring on slow news weeks.

For those of us who bother to listen to and remember what our leadership has said and done, whenever the topic comes up feel free to take Nd6 psychic damage, with N being the number of years you've been paying attention.

[–] Cimbazarov@hexbear.net 8 points 16 hours ago

Yea, at best the chuds will be mad for a week and then go back to bootlicking Trump. Epstein as a point of contention is weak because it doesnt affect people's day to day lives.

[–] Belly_Beanis@hexbear.net 42 points 1 day ago (1 children)

We knew about Trump's relationship to Epstein before he ran for president even back in 2016. Not only are there a bunch if photos and videos of him partying with Epstein, he paid a settlement to a 13 year-old Jane Doe who he and Epstein assaulted together.

It had zero effect on his campaign(s). If anything, they were boosted by it because chuds love reveling in their hypocrisy. Republicans who care about Trump's actions already jumped ship years ago.

It had zero effect on his campaign(s). If anything, they were boosted by it because chuds love reveling in their hypocrisy. Republicans who care about Trump's actions already jumped ship years ago.

it wasn't "reveling in the hypocrisy" it was literally the invention of an entirely fictional canon where secret agent Trump was working behind the scenes to Fix Things (he was just pretending to be a pedophile, totally), like that's literally what all that qanon shit was about

[–] smokeppb@hexbear.net 6 points 18 hours ago

Did anything happen after his home at Home Ave get leaked? There was one grandma who visited and I think she got yelled at lol but that really it?

[–] FunkyStuff@hexbear.net 35 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Will MAGA have a lesser evilism struggle session? Will they have :vote: shaming?

[–] Wheaties@hexbear.net 28 points 1 day ago

When libs find fault with the-democrat, expect a five paragraph essay explaining how they feel bad but ultimately won't change what they were gonna do anyway. Because common sense.

When chuds find the-republican unpalatable, they don't vote.

...gosh, I wonder how the Overton window has slipped so far to the right...?