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[–] Broadfern@lemmy.world 74 points 4 days ago (5 children)

Let the bastards who start the war be the only ones to fight it.

I will gladly share my plate with civilians from any nation, for I will have more in common with them than any national leader, talking head or oligarch.

[–] Truscape@lemmy.blahaj.zone 15 points 4 days ago

"I feel then, as I feel now, that the politicians should be given the guns and told to fight amongst themselves, rather than organizing nothing more than mass murder."

  • Harry Patch, last surviving veteran of World War One
[–] Evkob@lemmy.ca 11 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Why don't Presidents fight the war? Why do they always send the poor?

NGL, heads of state challenging each other to exhibition boxing matches would be incredible. It would also radically alter who gets on the ballot for general elections, and we'd have to deal with concussed presidents and such. At the same time, the stakes would probably be state-level things (resources, borders, land, tariffs, embargos, sanctions, etc.), so everyone's emotional state around a spectacle like that would be off the charts. People would riot after a loss.

[–] cupcakezealot@piefed.blahaj.zone 13 points 4 days ago (1 children)

as a great wise man once said; what's so civil about war anyway. it feeds the rich while it buries the poor.

Did you wear a black armband when they shot the man who said: "Peace could last forever"?

[–] samus12345@sh.itjust.works 5 points 4 days ago

Kat and Kropp get in an argument over the war as they rest from an hour’s worth of drill (occasioned by Tjaden’s not saluting a major properly). Kat believes the war would be over if leaders gave all the participants “the same grub and the same pay,” as he says in a rhyme. Kropp believes the leaders of each country should fight each other in an arena to settle the war; the “wrong” people currently do the fighting.

- All Quiet on the Western Front

[–] Fontasia@feddit.nl 60 points 4 days ago (1 children)
[–] djsoren19@lemmy.blahaj.zone 11 points 4 days ago

I know people don't care for Moffat-era Who, and for good reason, but gd Capaldi had some real bangers. The whole speech is incredible.

[–] theneverfox@pawb.social 41 points 4 days ago (1 children)

There are no adults. Never have been

[–] blindbunny@lemmy.ml 23 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Be the adult you want to see in the world.

[–] theneverfox@pawb.social 4 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Eww. Hell no

I want to still have the curiosity and empathy of a child on my deathbed. I want to grow and change until I die.

What is an adult but someone who does paperwork and is confidently wrong about how the ever changing world works?

[–] blindbunny@lemmy.ml 9 points 4 days ago (1 children)

There are adults that maintain their curiousity and empathy. I usually find them doing mutual aid.

[–] theneverfox@pawb.social 0 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Ask them if they consider themselves adults. Be sure to phrase it not as "are you physically fully developed" but "are you an adult on the inside"

I bet most of them laugh and admit they're a child on the inside

Adults aren't real. They just aren't. It's people deciding they no longer need to grow

[–] spankmonkey@lemmy.world 3 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

That is just accepting socially based stereotypes of how adults and children should behave instead of rejecting the stereotypes.

Being playful and curious and empathetic and other behaviors associated with childhood doesn't make and adult someone with a child on the inside. They are an adult who does those things, and there are plenty of adults like that.

[–] theneverfox@pawb.social 1 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Okay, then where's the line? When do you become an adult?

[–] spankmonkey@lemmy.world 1 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Socially when you become self sufficient and are able to take care of adult things like finances and housing and transportation on your own. Sometime that is before or after the legally defined cutoff, but for most people it is fairly close. Yes, even people who live at home and go to college can be adults if they are able to do common adult things on their own without requiring their parents or other adults to do it for them.

Being curious and empathetic for example has absolutely nothing to do with age or adulthood, because those are behaviors that many adults have. Especially the ones who go into science, or teaching, or research, or medical professions, or anything that tends to have life long learning as part of the process.

[–] theneverfox@pawb.social 1 points 3 days ago

That's a very strange line... but in that context I don't think what we're saying is very far apart

I say "there are no adults" because no one knows what is going on. Everyone is improvising, no one has all the answers

But people often put on the trappings of an adult. They tell you they understand the world and are in control. And that's not a bad thing. But sometimes they wear it so hard they convince themselves

The people that convince themselves, those are the people who have stopped growing. They have decided what the world is and how it works, they think they know what is going on... But they don't. No one does. They've just stopped changing. They don't challenge their beliefs, they become fixed in place relative to society

There are no adults. There are people who can fill the social role of an adult while still changing, and then there's people who believe they already understand everything

[–] samus12345@sh.itjust.works 19 points 4 days ago

I mean, that's an easy one: "It doesn't."

calvin (and bill) was especially based during c+h run. his takes on deforestation and urban sprawl were great.

[–] Lushed_Lungfish@lemmy.ca 5 points 3 days ago

It doesn't. It just keeps you in the running to survive until the problems are resolved.

But then again, humans have never really needed any excuse to kill each other.

Reminds me of the time someone asked why I joined the military. The answer was because I was young and needed the money. They expressed disgust that I was willing to kill people for money. I think it's a much better reason than because of disagreements about imaginary friends.

[–] fullsquare@awful.systems 4 points 3 days ago

if you're being invaded, then killing aggressor side soldiers solves very practical problem of getting invaded by them

unless you're saying that the ethical thing to do is to keel over and die in this situation

[–] NahMarcas@lemmy.ml 4 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

Because one faction have soldiers and the other no, if it had it too there would be no kill each other

it doesn't really solve any problems, it's just that a few assholes like to create noises