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[–] breecher@sh.itjust.works 81 points 6 days ago

It seems like most people have forgotten about this age-old classic:

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[–] Deflated0ne@lemmy.world 36 points 6 days ago

In fact we'd be absolutely delighted to filter all the oligarch class pedos out of politics. And yes, all means all. From all corners. Businessmen, politicians, faith leaders. All of them.

[–] MiddleAgesModem@lemmy.world 27 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Hilarious that they think they "got us" with someone who was president a quarter century ago.

Democrats voted unanimously to release the files, Republicans voted to hide them. Explain that, MAGA.

[–] amikulo@slrpnk.net 6 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Actually, the dems weren't unanimous. I think there were two who voted present.

[–] MiddleAgesModem@lemmy.world 6 points 6 days ago (1 children)

voted present? Does that mean abstained?

[–] amikulo@slrpnk.net 4 points 6 days ago
[–] rayyy@lemmy.world 21 points 6 days ago

The right considers Republican pedophiles good pedophiles, while the left considers all pedophiles vile. Enough of the double standards bullshit for the rich at the expense of children's lives.

[–] TuffNutzes@lemmy.world 18 points 6 days ago

The cult has always assumed that everyone's as bad as they are. That's why they do the things that they do.

[–] beejboytyson@lemmy.world 14 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Any real leftist would say put the both in jail.

[–] boonhet@sopuli.xyz 11 points 6 days ago (3 children)

Well, investigate both. And if they're guilty (which seems likely for both) throw both in jail!

Though to be fair, Dump himself should go to jail even without any Epstein revelations, he's done plenty else too

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[–] MilitantAtheist@lemmy.world 7 points 6 days ago

It's not left though. It's right and righter.

[–] frezik@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 points 6 days ago (2 children)

Obviously, we don't really care about Bill Clinton, but I would like to bring up someone a lot of us will care about, and should still treat the same way.

Marvin Minsky was a pioneer in the AI field. He also had ties to Epstein. Now, you may not care about Minsky or AI (though I'll point out that the research field and what capitalism is doing with that research are very different things). But you might care about Richard Stallman, and he comes into this, too:

https://www.npr.org/2019/09/17/761718975/free-software-pioneer-quits-mit-over-his-comments-on-epstein-sex-trafficking-cas

The controversy swirling around him now stems from a series of emails from a CSAIL group email list--made public by Selam Jie Gano--in which Stallman said that a 17-year-old girl who allegedly was instructed by Epstein to have sex with AI pioneer Marvin Minsky likely seemed "entirely willing" to engage in the illegal act. He also argued it is unfair to call such an incident "sexual assault".

Stallman dropped out as president of the Free Software Foundation because of this.

Minsky himself died in 2016, but as far as I'm concerned, Stallman got exactly what he deserved. There's no evidence he was directly involved as far as I'm aware, but those are not acceptable comments to make, and he shows some deep misunderstandings of consent here.

[–] Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In@lemmy.world 9 points 6 days ago (3 children)

Even Stephen Hawking visiting Epstein island shouldn't stop the list being released.

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[–] bathing_in_bismuth@sh.itjust.works 7 points 6 days ago (3 children)

I wanted to make an "A handshake B" meme about both sides hating pedophiles, but even devising in "A and B" feels bad.

All decent humans hate pedophiles

[–] ameancow@lemmy.world 12 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

All decent humans hate pedophiles

There has been a recent wave of online influencers and their ilk suddenly talking about how being attracted to minors is "the most natural thing in the world for all men."

Combine this with the recent push for removing child-labor laws and you really see what the right's values are.

[–] Lushed_Lungfish@lemmy.ca 5 points 6 days ago (2 children)

I am in no way a decent human and even I hate pedophiles.

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[–] lazyViking@lemmy.world 4 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (5 children)

This might unfortunately make me sound like a pedophile.. but all decent humans don't hate pedophiles, they hate (child) sexual assaulters (is that a word?). All decent humans want pedophiles to get appropriate and effective help long before they act. Which would both reduce the number of harmed children and increase the number of functioning and (possibly) happy adults

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