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[–] christian@hexbear.net 69 points 1 week ago (1 children)

The biggest reason I can't picture this as a DNC-orchestrated conspiracy is that it would imply the democrats had actually considered the possibility that the 2016 general election might require more effort than going totally afk to enjoy a slam-dunk win.

[–] TankieTanuki@hexbear.net 39 points 1 week ago (1 children)

The second paragraph alleges that Obama hatched the plot in January 2017.

[–] christian@hexbear.net 6 points 1 week ago

You can try all you want but you will never teach me to open the articles before commenting.

[–] JoeByeThen@hexbear.net 65 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I dunno if I'm gonna be able to contain myself at the hilarity if there's an Obama mugshot. I may really break down into joker-dancing hysterics at that point.

me solidarity you

hating obama so much it could induce madness

[–] robotElder2@hexbear.net 63 points 1 week ago (1 children)

If you know any liberals who were complacency mongering about not prosecuting bush or trump for fear of "setting a precedent" now is the time seize them by the ears and rub their nose in it.

[–] PorkrollPosadist@hexbear.net 43 points 1 week ago

We can't do that. It would undermine the legitimacy of the institutions! Instead, it must be the most important election in history until the end of history.

[–] LeeeroooyJeeenkiiins@hexbear.net 57 points 1 week ago (1 children)

they really are just gonna ignore the pied piper shit showing the dems rigging the election to help trump first

[–] OldSoulHippie@hexbear.net 8 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

It blows my mind that nobody pays attention to that. Neither side of the uniparty want to use it as ammo

[–] Evilphd666@hexbear.net 49 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Dems did the Russia Russia Russia side of new Red Scare while Republicans did the China China China side of the Red Scare . Also enacted a Lavender Scare and calls anyone who doesn't bow down to Trump a fascist terrorsits that gets slammed in a concentration camp that may or not be inside the US.

[–] Le_Wokisme@hexbear.net 11 points 1 week ago

trump and biden each campaigned on the other being too soft on china.

same-picture

[–] SorosFootSoldier@hexbear.net 38 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Unrelated but Tulsi's grey streak reminds me of Rogue from X-Men and I can't unsee it.

[–] stink@lemmygrad.ml 24 points 1 week ago (1 children)

It looks dope af to be on such a ghoul

[–] theturtlemoves@hexbear.net 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Isn't she one of the relatively less ghoulish US politicians?

[–] ElChapoDeChapo@hexbear.net 20 points 1 week ago
[–] marduk 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

You never go full Cruella

[–] Hotspur@lemmy.ml 38 points 1 week ago (4 children)

Does the Supreme Court ruling last year that presidents cannot commit crime while presidenting just mean this is ultimately a non-starter?

[–] Alaskaball@hexbear.net 34 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Pretty much yeah. But the question arises, if the current president decides to arrest the former president for whatever bullshit reasons, who's gonna stop him? Democratic norms? A sternly worded impeachment? MSNDNC talking heads saying "how dare you Sir! libbing-out "

[–] Hotspur@lemmy.ml 28 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Well I mean they can arrest him. But presumably they’ll still have to have a trial and his lawyers will point to the ruling. But who knows, maybe they will denaturalize him as a national security threat and deport him to Guantanamo as an enemy combatant and avoid due process altogether.

[–] QuillcrestFalconer@hexbear.net 28 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Honestly Obama does deserve to be sent to guantanamo. That would be poetic

[–] Hotspur@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 week ago

Would be crazy funny to send bush and Obama to Guantanamo to hang with the 5 mentally ill dudes left from their GWOT years plus a bunch of Venezuelans and Haitians and such. I think they’d have a great time. Obama could teach them about playlist making and bush could start a new painting series…

[–] Alaskaball@hexbear.net 22 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Certainly a spicy possibility for the future. Personally I'm mostly hoping they just do some shitflinging, legal bickering, and continue the rest of the train wreck presidency not causing ww3.

[–] Hotspur@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 week ago

Yeah would be nice not to have ww3/civil war2

[–] barrbaric@hexbear.net 34 points 1 week ago (1 children)

IIRC that was for "official duties" of the office of the president or somesuch, they could just argue that these weren't official duties. Really the SC can just say whatever they want as an excuse.

[–] Hotspur@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 week ago

Ostensibly yes, but I feel like the way the ruling was built—virtually anything they did, from taking a shit to ordering the hit on their grade school bully would fall under their “official duties” and you also weren’t allowed to use any communications from any of their staffers, etc. I just remember that it was basically a blanket immunity, once you factored in the burden of arguing the case.

That said, of course they will apply a different standard/ignore whatever they want. I’m still thinking it won’t go farther than performative statements and social media, but they’re so whacky that it’s almost impossible to make proper predictions about anything.

[–] LeeeroooyJeeenkiiins@hexbear.net 23 points 1 week ago (1 children)

they didn't rule that that's the case if you're presidenting while black

[–] Hotspur@lemmy.ml 13 points 1 week ago
[–] NephewAlphaBravo@hexbear.net 7 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

you know as well as I do that ruling has an unwritten IOKIYAR clause

[–] Hotspur@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 week ago

Oh for sure. Besides they can just run it back up to the Supreme Court and most likely get what they want.

[–] GoodGuyWithACat@hexbear.net 37 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Is this really news, Obama was president and in charge of those organizations that did the probe.

[–] barrbaric@hexbear.net 14 points 1 week ago (1 children)

The newsworthiness of this imo is mostly the fact that Gabbard/the Trump admin are saying it now.

[–] mrfugu@hexbear.net 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Why? They’ve been saying it was the democrats. How is trump going back to the obama well different?

[–] barrbaric@hexbear.net 2 points 6 days ago

Specifically saying he'd imprison Obama, a former president, based on specific (rather flimsy) claims rather than the vague collective democrats is a substantial change, and I think justifies reporting it. Not like there aren't way less important news stories out there.

[–] plinky@hexbear.net 32 points 1 week ago
[–] FunkyStuff@hexbear.net 32 points 1 week ago

my-life-is-yours Trump! Make Obama and Biden beg, defend themselves in a tribunal, while an enormous crowd hoots and jeers at them, and my life is yours! (and [redacted] yourself afterward)

[–] boiledfrog@hexbear.net 23 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] boiledfrog@hexbear.net 14 points 1 week ago

Maybe obama-prism has access to some secret Epstein stuff so we can have a standoff

[–] Facky@hexbear.net 15 points 1 week ago

No shit. I thought this was common knowledge?

It was definitely Hillary

Why would Obama try to discredit himself ,it was actually Romney in the 2012 debate who would warn about the “dangers of Russia” while Obama downplayed it ,seems weird for Obama to you know blame himself