Yes I am! This government pamphlet I got says so!
Huh, I wonder who that's for.
Literally everyone.
That's the point.
Lack of immunity does not mean you cannot become resistant to it. Like with all things education will free you. It's just a matter of finding enough of it and from the right sources
This implies I have to put effort in. I'll just write this comment off as propaganda and pat myself on the back for a job well done combating BS for the weak minded sheep. - Most of society
In my experience most people are more than happy to have a conversation about things. It's more about it being on their terms so they can find the information approachable
I agree. And on a more serious note, I think it all stems from the fact that people don't like being confronted about their identity. And oftentimes people will hold onto beliefs so hard that they become part of their identity. Look at many flat-eathers, it's not a belief they have, it's who they are, they are a flat-eather, and when you try to attack or question someone's identity they react very defensively. So showing a flat-eather that there is evidence disproving their belief, then they either must reject it or question their identity. And rejecting it is always much easier. Which can make those convos extremely hard.
I don't need to be immune to propaganda. I live in [country], the best country of the world. We don't need no propaganda, that's just something that [other side of globe] countries do, as well as [neighbour country] of course.
this is a god reminder on lemmy
While this is true, the complete absence of foreign and/or free media in some countries doesn't even give you a chance of forming educated opinions.
Hexbear people are very immune to propaganda. Maybe even reverse immune
It's crazy. Literally seen the same stuff I see in alt right spaces over there. Crazy
Authoritarians gonna authoritate.
For real. I saw a lot of " Ukraine has nazis!!!!" Over there.
But then again im with the CIA. So what do i know.
It's insane. I know Ukraine has a neo nazi issue, so does the US. And Germany and England and most other countries. Brazil has fucking Nazis who are Hispanic ffs.
But if they're trying to say only Ukraine has Nazis and not Russia they're outside their fuckin minds. I literally have met Russian Nazis, I know Russia has way more Nazis than Ukraine.
hexbear people are hated here because they are not specifically on the american propaganda pipeline
Yes, they downloaded the CCP propaganda pipe line.
I also definitely don't hate the hexbear people, I find them fascinating.
bro they literally cheer for North Korea and treat Taiwan as an enemy.
This guy hexbears
They're just very susceptible to different propaganda.
Eh. The older I get, the more neutral and apathetic I get. Everything seems to come from some direction with a degree of bias.
It's like fed articles on the war in Ukraine. If things were as positive as articles from both sides regularly claim, it wouldn't be where it is in Sep 2023. I get propaganda is also used to positively influence morale and support—and I encourage it for Ukraine—but it sure would be nice to see more unbiased reporting and posting. As it is, just got to kind of determine a median of the propaganda and that's likely the actual situation.
The most frustrating part about not being influenced by propaganda is that pro-Russia and pro-Ukraine people that have been susceptible to propaganda will attack you from both directions at the same time. Regardless of the topic/issue, this seems to be a good indicator that you're closely aligned to fact rather than story.
Edit: I see my lagged and incoming downvotes are the aforementioned pro-xxxxx doing exactly as I said they do. As far as I'm concerned, it's downvoting the opinion of accurate information distributed to allow critical assessment of individuals—since that's obviously the opposite of propaganda. I'd be interested to know the opinion of why someone downvoted me since the topic is about propaganda. If it's because you're pro-Russia or pro-Ukraine, well, thank you for participating in proving the point. The confirmation would be good though as long as it doesn't turn into an off-tipic debate around the War in Ukraine, which isn't actually the topic here, just an example used of the thousands but chosen for it's comminality and relevance right now
My big brain moment was when I realized that my interest in studying the conflict itself was the result of propaganda.
The most frustrating part about not being influenced by propaganda is that pro-Russia and pro-Ukraine people that have been susceptible to propaganda will attack you from both directions at the same time. Regardless of the topic/issue, this seems to be a good indicator that you're closely aligned to fact rather than story.
Hi! I downvoted you because this paragraph is incredibly misguided. Firstly, you come right out and claim that you aren't influenced by propaganda, which is a ludicrous thing to think—especially in the context of this post. Secondly, you make the classic enlightened centrist argument that if everyone thinks you're wrong, you must have things figured out. That's a fundamentally stupid position. Have a good one!
Yah, putting Russian propaganda on the same level as Ukraine propaganda is incredibly pro Russian. Looking at the measurable damage caused, how Russia is using it's propaganda machine to trick people into fighting a war they don't even understand, under false pretenses. Ukraine may say they'd doing better than they are, or over exaggerate something Russia does, but they are no where near the same level.
I mean it is going in Ukraine's direction. By all metrics they should've lost by now.
I know. That's why I got rid of tv in the 90s and won't stay where commercial radio is being played.
and won't stay where commercial radio is being played.
Omg. Radio is the most propagandized media. It hurts my brain when it is playing.
Especially Garfield! Perfectly designed to worm himself into the minds of those in corporate America.
There's this sentiment that all journalism cannot be trusted. But if so, how does anyone ever get to find out anything at all? Word of mouth? Gut feeling? Distrust of journalism is reasonable, but not good enough. There are specific reasons why misinformation exists and you need to know WHY that is so. Because otherwise you discount information which is true, and the end result is the same as you'd get with blind trust: A false understanding of the world.
Everyone has a false understanding of the world to an extent. All you can do is have good intuation about who to trust
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