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[-] bucho@lemmy.one 44 points 1 year ago

I think that it's interesting that tankies call themselves tankies in memes, and yet will get all bent out of shape if non-tankies refer to them as tankies. Like, I understand coopting hurtful terms as a sort of reclamation of the power of language... but really? Tankies is the term you want to reclaim? You want to associate yourself with authoritarian regimes using tanks to crush protestors? Alright, then.

[-] mindbleach@sh.itjust.works 19 points 1 year ago

Welcome to reality as a team sport. Words don't mean things. It's all just signalling - ingroup always good, outgroup always bad.

[-] goat@sh.itjust.works 11 points 1 year ago

It's the same as any extremist. When someone they deem lesser calls them what they are, they become offended, but when it's themselves, it's fine.

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[-] Hyperreality@kbin.social 30 points 1 year ago

Tankies will also happily defend Russia, so sometimes they prefer fascists to liberals.

[-] goat@sh.itjust.works 19 points 1 year ago

From my experience it's every time

[-] PugJesus@kbin.social 23 points 1 year ago

Ah yes, tankies have never turned on liberals the moment they've taken power, no sir. Poor innocent tankies.

[-] goat@sh.itjust.works 20 points 1 year ago

i wonder what country it was that wanted to share the invasion of poland. hm

[-] Shiggles@sh.itjust.works 16 points 1 year ago

Do they actually consider themselves a significant enough population to even bother courting? “People further left from the democrats” is a fairly small group already, tankies are a thankfully small subset of that.

[-] solivine@sopuli.xyz 8 points 1 year ago

They aren't really far left though when they support fascist regimes.

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[-] JokeDeity@lemm.ee 5 points 1 year ago
[-] YeetPics@mander.xyz 4 points 1 year ago
[-] goat@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 year ago

Anyone can be authoritarian

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[-] goat@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 year ago

a little unrelated, but I don't use left-right, mainly because of how my country handles democracy

[-] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago

Oh hey, next time they call anarchists liberals for not trusting them boy do I have a meme for them

[-] sharkfucker420@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 year ago

Aren't they just saying that liberals and fascist both defend capitalism and are therefore both against them? Similar but not the same?

[-] stillwater@lemm.ee 12 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

No, the comment section makes it much clearer that they think Bernie Sanders is as likely to round them all up and throw them in prison as Trump. There's no nuance to their statements, they think anyone who isn't explicitly a communist or all our socialist will eventually murder communists and socialists.

They've flattened out literally every other ideology except their own as "evil" basically.

[-] goat@sh.itjust.works 11 points 1 year ago

According to their wiki, which is blocked in China, funnily enough--Democracies are actually fascist states!

[-] boredtortoise@lemm.ee 6 points 1 year ago

Kind of. The meme follows the way the USA's capitalists co-opted the term liberalism. It's a bit of a mess and supports capitalist lingo

This is one of the cases which implies that the instance registration isn't fool-proof and there're some pro capitalist users messing with them

[-] ForgotAboutDre@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

A liberal economy is a capitalist economy. A capitalist economy allows individuals to freely trade goods and services between each other.

Political commentators in the US try to change the meaning to be any left wing movement. Despite liberal being an appropriate label to groups within both conservative and progressive politicians.

[-] boredtortoise@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago

A capitalist economy is inherently authoritarian and conservative, stifling liberties and freedoms for most

[-] goat@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

What do you mean by inherently authoritarian?

[-] boredtortoise@lemm.ee 3 points 1 year ago

The hierarchy of capitalism where holding more money and wealth is authority and power over those who have less.

[-] goat@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 year ago

That's in every country though, regardless of its economic system. For Communism, it's just the state that has the authority and power

[-] boredtortoise@lemm.ee 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Isn't communism stateless though? And vanguard party totalitarian states aren't it.

Anyway, there's an infinite amount of options which aren't capitalist to move on with

[-] goat@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 year ago

Communism is meant to be stateless, yeah!

but in practice it has a central authoritarian state.

[-] boredtortoise@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago

We don't really know the second sentence. Any central authoritarian state doesn't have communist qualities and such a state can't be trusted on what they claim they are

[-] goat@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 year ago

then there has never been a communist nation

[-] boredtortoise@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago

Probably true

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