Capitalist Realism : socialism

[–] bloubz@lemmygrad.ml 8 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Where can we read more about this?

[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml 13 points 9 months ago (1 children)

https://archive.org/details/capitalist-realism-is-there-no-alternative

[–] bloubz@lemmygrad.ml 9 points 9 months ago

Thank you Yog

[–] jim3692@discuss.online 5 points 9 months ago

This is very obvious on discussions/articles about privacy and ads. There is a lot of talk about Meta/Google/Apple/Microsoft invading the users privacy, forcing ads, or screwing users on various different ways.

However, there are very rarely any mentions about alternatives:

Linux may do your job for your PC needs
DeGoogled Android (like LineageOS) may do your job for your smartphone needs
Lemmy/Mastodon can be used as alternative social media
Odysee/PeerTube may have the type of content one watches on YouTube

If there is no push for alternatives, capitalist services and software will continue to be used as tools for capitalism or fascism.

[–] wuphysics87@lemmy.ml 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

What's the background?

[–] GiorgioPerlasca@lemmy.ml 5 points 9 months ago

Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, a U.S. Representative, gained significant attention for wearing a dress with the phrase "Tax the Rich" at the 2021 Met Gala, which sparked discussions about wealth inequality and her political stance. Recently, she was instructed by the House Ethics Committee to pay additional amounts related to her Met Gala appearance due to violations of House rules regarding gifts.

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/aoc-broke-house-rules-attend-ritzy-met-gala-tax-rich-dress-ordered-pay

[+] libre_warrior@lemmy.ml -6 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Our words makes us think under the capitalist mindset.

For deem, we like to use problem solving to mitigate capitalisms disruptions. By doing this, we superficially look at the current conditions and answers similarily superficially. For deem, we say that plastic bottles pollutes our oceans and recirculation are the solution. That cars polluting are the problem and electric cars are the solution.

These are technically solutions, but they dont take an wholistic approach. They dont see the interplay of different actions. They dont necessarily try to completely answer an undesired condition. This is the unwellness of problem solving.

What we instead should do, is to start from the wholistic. View our planet as a body. To see ourselves as doctors rather than engineers. To say that we do unwellness lokening, rather than problem solving.

Because by doing this, we fundamentally change the framing. We will have a much easier time defining conditions wholistically, and thus makes it easier to find effective responses to them.

Plastics bottles are certainly an unwellness, but it is part of something bigger... The unwellness of plastic pollution where the lokening is stopping plastic production. An unwellness is cars, the lokening is stopping car production. An unwellness is advertisements, the lokening is people initiated sightsteering.

The unwellness lokening approach is in itself a way to move away from captialist realism and towards samlife.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 18 points 9 months ago (2 children)

This is very idealist, rather than materialist. Proper analysis of problems presented by capitalism must be looked at systemically, yes, but framing it based on vibes and LARPing as "system doctors" doesn't actually solve anything. We must take a consistent, scientific approach, a la Marxism.

[+] libre_warrior@lemmy.ml -7 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Yes, unwellness lokening is going away from the material frame because unwellness lokening greatens our ability to think wholistically. It doesn't weaken, but greatens our ability to systematically respond to the rampage of might and machine*.

With this framing, we relight our attention away from the abstract, towards the value of life. This weakens mights ability to coerce us in that we move away from an unliving world towards a living world. Where we view life as worthy, instead of as exploitable. Where we do not simply see a forest as a source of income, but rather as something that lives and are worthy of care.

We don't need science to see that Gaja is sick, we already know this. We know that might and machine is the source of these unwellnesses. Simply withdrawing our support and establishing mightless and samholding societies are enough to ensure samlife with Gaja. We can do this through lokenings such as moving away from overproduction towards frugile societies. Let societies not be governed by leaders, but grown by guiders. No science is needed to understand this, only an agreement about what society should be grounded upon.

*Using machine as a way to refer to the systems controlled by might that undermines our free will.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 11 points 9 months ago (2 children)

This is just idealism, it has no merit.

[–] libre_warrior@lemmy.ml -3 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Quick question, is a doctor an idealist?

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 12 points 9 months ago (1 children)

If they are an idealist, yes. If they are a materialist, no. That question is like asking if a doctor is 35 years old.

[–] libre_warrior@lemmy.ml -2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Gotcha mate.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 9 points 9 months ago (1 children)

We may be talking about different things, are you aware of what idealism and materialism are in philosophical terms?

[–] libre_warrior@lemmy.ml -1 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

I haven't delved into the philosophy of idealism, so I'm a seed in that. Just looked up the wikipedia article when you brought it up. Found it to be an umbrella term, so I couldn't really determine my stead on it.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 7 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Elementary Principles of Philosophy is a full book, but is absolutely my favorite primer on dialectical materialism, and how it came to be, going over earlier idealism, vulgar materialism, the origins of dialectics, etc. I recommend giving it a read!

[–] libre_warrior@lemmy.ml 3 points 9 months ago (1 children)

By the way, could you recommend some epub reader for linux by any chance?

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 6 points 9 months ago

I think Koreader works well on Linux! I also recommend just reading it on mobile.

[–] libre_warrior@lemmy.ml 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Thanks:) I'll peek and see if it sparks me!

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 5 points 9 months ago

No problem!

[–] libre_warrior@lemmy.ml -4 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Well, ditto then.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 5 points 9 months ago

Deliberately abandoning science and materialism in favor of idealism is counterproductive.

[+] Treetrimmer@sh.itjust.works -13 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

All I'm seeing here is a whole lotta armchair philosophers, but then again I suppose that's all that's accomplished on this sub.

[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml 20 points 9 months ago

Oh, how delightfully condescending! Nothing says rigorous critique like dismissing thoughtful discussion as armchair philosophy from the comfort of your anti-intellectual high horse. Philosophy isn’t some gated estate reserved for tenured professors in ivory towers. It’s rooted in questioning, debate, and critical thinking, activities every person is not only capable of, but should engage in. To sneer at armchair philosophers is to imply that ordinary people shouldn’t dare reflect on ethics, society, or meaning.

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