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[-] podperson@lemm.ee 147 points 11 months ago

The pandemic handed us all a super easy win on doing something about climate change by forcing a large chunk of us to (temporarily, it seems) stop sitting in our cars twice a day. Instant reduction in the amount of CO2 we're producing. It's not 100% of the solution, but it's not nothing, and a year in, most of us had adapted just fine (I'd argue, most who could WFH, prospered, seeing a lot more benefit than negative).

But nah - let's get back in our cars, waste time at the beginning and end of every day, spend more money on coffees and lunch, and breathe in the cubicle goodness because, fuck it - that's the way we've always done it.

[-] madcaesar@lemmy.world 81 points 11 months ago

Do you know what I learned during the pandemic? CO2 emissions by PEOPLE are a rounding number. The pandemic hit and CO2 barely changed.

It's industry and corporations and farms that output like 80 % of all CO2, yet we're made to believe it's "on us" to make a change.

It's the same with recycling, it's pushed like we're saving the planet recycling some bottles while a paper plant will pollute the equivalent of 200,000 homes...

[-] BlueMagma@sh.itjust.works 25 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

You are totally right, industry is the big polluter, but I think it's important to also realize: what we consume drives industry to produce polluting goods, the only reason they pollute is to produce stuff to sell us, if we want them to stop polluting, "part" of the solution is to stop buying their stuff.

[-] Honytawk@lemmy.zip 12 points 11 months ago

There is some truth to that, but you also need to be reminded that companies will look at profit before they look at environmental impact.

Yes, producing goods pollutes, but it could pollute way less if they changed the way they produce.

But corporations won't do that because it cuts into their profit.

So it is much cheaper to blame the consumers for wanting products.

(Products they try to convince you to buy through marketing I might add)

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[-] KyuubiNoKitsune@lemmy.blahaj.zone 25 points 11 months ago

Cubicle? Laughs in open plan..

Anyways, seeing as we proved without a doubt that I can do my job from home, any time spent on a forced commute I now consider company time.

[-] sanosuke001@lemmynsfw.com 9 points 10 months ago

I drive into an on-site location a few times a year at most and I 100% consider any time traveling as work time.

[-] hh93@lemm.ee 24 points 11 months ago

Also fixing rent by not making it necessary to live in the same city you work in giving everyone more choices

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[-] III@lemmy.world 20 points 11 months ago

Great job, podperson! This is the type of go get 'em attitude that executive management will accept. You deserve a reward. How about a below-inflation salary bump this year?

[-] Acters@lemmy.world 22 points 11 months ago

That's so generous of you. However, HR recommends holding a pizza party and a meeting to congratulate workers that further wastes their time, off the clock, of course, instead of offering a pay bump.

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[-] vivadanang@lemm.ee 16 points 11 months ago

and pants!

who the fuck needs pants? so overrated....

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[-] AllonzeeLV@lemmy.world 122 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

"How DARE my employees use WFH to take the edge off the negative aspects of being at work! I'm canceling WFH! They make me so mad I need to... have a tumbler of bourbon... from the fully stocked bar... that I keep prominently displayed in my office... for 'client meetings'... next to my office chaise lounge.

sips

I feel like the last hard worker left. Tsk tsk tsk."

[-] Semi-Hemi-Demigod@kbin.social 49 points 11 months ago

"People who work from home are taking naps in the middle of the day! They have to get back into the office where we have nap pods!"

[-] AllonzeeLV@lemmy.world 46 points 11 months ago

I solemnly swear to be less productive in person out of spite.

And I never even had WFH.

[-] makyo@lemmy.world 15 points 11 months ago

I am at the best 60% as productive at my office so forcing me to go in is more their problem than mine.

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[-] superduperenigma@lemmy.world 11 points 11 months ago

I'm also done taking responsibility for time lost due to issues with my commute.

It's not my fault the bus was late. It's not my fault there was traffic. And it's certainly not my fault that I have a commute in the first place. I'm leaving at 4pm no matter what.

[-] hemko@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 11 months ago

Not out of spite, but the 2 ish days a week I go to office I've been clear I'll focus on socializing because it's harder to focus to work in the noise of office

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[-] LanternEverywhere@kbin.social 94 points 11 months ago

Actually that's often the most productive thing you can do. If your mind is fuzzy and you try to work through it you will continue to have low productivity for the rest of the day, but if you take a 30 minute nap to refresh your mind then you'll have higher productivity for the whole rest of the day.

[-] AllonzeeLV@lemmy.world 51 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

It's true, and much of the enlightened world does it. American businesses, on the other hand, largely measure productivity by how sufficiently drained/beat up their employees appear at the end of the day.

I mentioned to my current supervisor once that I was going to the gym after work, to which their reply was "I guess you didn't work hard enough today then, haha." my mistake for momentarily forgetting a lesson I knew: the owners and their doting lackeys are the the opposite of friends, if it's not work related, it should be a lie(same as they do to you constantly) or silence. At least in the US.

Just like when you're in the presence of an American cop, when at work, anything you say can and will be used against you, so be as fake and stepford as possible.

[-] rudyharrelson@kbin.social 12 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Itโ€™s true, and much of the enlightened world does it.

Ain't it the truth. I'm an American who does software development for a French company and it's amazing. 10/10. Best job I've ever had.

[-] superduperenigma@lemmy.world 41 points 11 months ago

If those project managers could read they'd be very upset.

[-] toofpic@lemmy.world 13 points 11 months ago

I'm a manager and I confirm that I am not upset, I endorse taking a rest when you're tired, and I took sleeping breaks myself from time to time. I'm working from the office at my current position though :(

[-] Venator@kbin.social 19 points 11 months ago

Sometimes a 30 minute nap accidentally turns into a 4 hr nap, which I believe will improve your productivity for the rest of the week ๐Ÿ˜‚

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[-] Semi-Hemi-Demigod@kbin.social 8 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

One thing I do when I've got a big task is to take a break and do some chores. I'll think on it in the background while I'm focused on folding laundry or whatever, and then grab a cup of coffee and get to work with a fresh brain and at least some idea of where to start.

(I don't like naps but I imagine the principle is the same.)

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[-] s_v@lemm.ee 76 points 11 months ago

As long as he pushes out that report on time I don't see anything wrong here, moving on.

[-] Kahlenar@lemmy.world 10 points 10 months ago

That's the crazy madness of this. Some of these jobs out there require so little actual work that in office work is just to torment the workers. If love to have one of those jobs though

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[-] A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 40 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Y'all applauding this, when it reads more like an Anti-WFH comic than anything else.

Cause this is exactly what all the anti-WFH propagandists are trying to get people to think WFH is, just a scam used by lazy thieves.

[-] Retrograde@lemmy.world 11 points 10 months ago

Idk I read this more as "work is bullshit" more than anything

[-] towerful@programming.dev 10 points 10 months ago

Or, they have hit their numbers thanks to WFH.
And the employee is happy and will get the report done

[-] reverendsteveii@lemm.ee 38 points 11 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

15 minutes of just sitting in the calm quiet is proven to reduce stress hormones in the body by helping regulate the hypothalamic-pituatary-adrenal (HPA) pathway. 15 minutes of quiet every day can work wonders on your mental and physical health. Deactivating the HPA pathway reduces the stress hormones in your system, which reduces every bodily systems stress reaction. This can help your mood, obviously. Anxiety, depression, irritability, all responses to stress. It can also help with autoimmune issues, though. Stress hormones cause your immune system to go into overdrive because your body is expecting to have to deal with a wound as a potential source of infection. Lowering those stress hormones has been demonstrated to help with autoimmune disorders like lupus, fibromyalgia, psoriasis and others. It's said that we operate in two modes: fight or flight, or rest and digest. When you're stressed, your body moves resources away from your digestive system. It's basically saying "We dont have time to digest food right now, we gotta run away from this bear". If you're stressed all the time, you're always running your digestive system inefficiently. So regulating the HPA pathway has been correlated with improvements in shit like Crohn's, colitis, IBS and other digestive issues. Constant stress boosts your heart rate, constricts your blood vessels and increases your blood pressure, so regulating the HPA pathway can lead to decreases in the risk of cardiovascular diseases.

Thing about sitting quietly in a calm space is that a lot of us, myself included, will fill that space with thoughts that just cause more stress. Luckily for us anxious folk, meditation exists and is quite literally the culmination of millennia of smart, dedicated people trying to solve this exact problem. There are tons of resources online where you can learn how, many of them are free. They'll teach you how to detach from stressful thoughts and situations, how to stop agonizing over what's already done and being terrified of what could happen and just acknowledge what's going on right now. Try it. If I'm totally wrong and you hate it you're only out 15 minutes.

Tldr - stress hormones make your whole body go into emergency mode. Emergency mode is good during emergencies, but not good all the time. Bringing your body out of emergency mode when there's not actually an emergency helps pretty much every part of you be healthier. You can bring your body out of emergency mode with 15 minutes of sitting quietly in a calm space. Meditation can help you establish that calm space.

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[-] raptir@lemdro.id 34 points 11 months ago

That's completely out of line. Why is he wearing pants?

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[-] fne8w2ah@lemmy.world 30 points 11 months ago

CEOS HATE THIS PRODUCTIVITY TRICK!!! /s

[-] Jeanschyso@lemmy.world 29 points 11 months ago

Some of my most productive days since I started WFH were when I took a 30 minutes nap in the afternoon. Taking a nap, a shower, then sitting down with a light snack to finish doing a thing is legit optimal.

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[-] clearedtoland@lemmy.world 25 points 11 months ago

and still, still, I'm significantly more productive, creative and and willing to collaborate because I'm rested and removed from office politics and personas...

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[-] Cold_Brew_Enema@lemmy.world 18 points 11 months ago

I've been taking brisk long walks at work everyday. Helps me be way more productive than I ever was in the office. WFH is amazing.

[-] Monster96@lemmy.world 12 points 11 months ago

My first WFH job I felt so bad taking a nap because I was tired while on the clock

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[-] okamiueru@lemmy.world 11 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Oh, the number of times my introverted mind has become exhausted after a meeting, and instead of taking a 30 minute nap and play time with doggo followed by a 4 hour focused work session, I'm borderline catatonic with a headache for the next 2 hours until it's time to head home.

[-] OldQWERTYbastard@lemmy.world 8 points 11 months ago

I left a job of eight years for a WFH job. I lasted 15 months and they worked my ass off. 11 and 12 hour days for weeks on end and still unable to keep up. I left and took a 49% pay cut. I'm selling shit on ebay to pay the bills and no longer WFH, but I'm back to 40 hours a week.

[-] Lemmynkainen@lemmy.world 32 points 11 months ago

I feel like there could be a middleground found here ๐Ÿ˜‚

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[-] mo_lave@reddthat.com 7 points 11 months ago

You may joke but this is real.

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