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User ban controversy reveals Bluesky’s decentralized aspiration isn’t reality
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this post was submitted on 07 Oct 2025
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What does this even mean?
Downstream.
As in, an unoriginal derivative.
I didn’t know there were people who saw that as a bad thing when it comes to software.
It can be good, or bad, or both, or neither, adownstream on its own is just like... derived from, based on.
But also implicit in that is that... it ... is not the same as the thing it is based on.
It either adds or removes things or does something similar but in a different way.
Probably a good and bad thing. Openly taking open source software and improving is good, copying an idea, overlaying it with a false sense of security or decentralization but really just being another version of the same thing with no real improvement is bad.
Quite interesting to see
indeed!
This is like lemmy.zip banning a user on another server, and then someone complaining that using a different client (like phtn.app) that just uses lemmy.zip's api doesn't let you see them.
blacksky.app is a PDS. This stores your account. blacksky.community is a client, this literally just uses bsky.app's api. blacksky.community is soon going to make it's own api, and then link's account will be viewable again.
reddwarf.whey.party still shows the user's account.
Point remains that despite ATProto team claims there is no viable decentralized federation yet as you are forced to connect to centralized Bluesky services.
Despite Fraser’s efforts to implement his own PDS, Relay, and App View, however, Blacksky still remains partially dependent upon Bluesky’s application server, largely because while the code to implement the dataplane of posts and users within an application server is released, the open-source version is slower.
Asked about why Link had to contact Bluesky to find out what had happened to his account rather than receiving a notice, Paul Frazee, the service’s CTO, said that it was “unfortunate,” and that Bluesky needed to finish adding a feature to let users of external PDSes know if they have been banned by Bluesky labelers.
https://reddwarf.whey.party/profile/spacelawshitpost.me
This relies on none of bluesky's infrastructure.
Blacksky is planning on setting up the appview.
Yes and by design it is subpar experience in comparison to Bluesky, at least for now. It's their own words, not mine.
Once Blacksky's AppView launches, can we retire the "Bluesky is not really federated" discourse?
Same as everywhere else: If you don't like it block it. Don't decide what everybody else should see.