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[–] mikezane@lemmy.world 205 points 2 months ago (3 children)

The FBI is treating the case as “an act of targeted violence,”

Not an act of terrorism, because Trump supporters could never be terrorists with the current head of the FBI.

[–] Quill7513@slrpnk.net 57 points 2 months ago (1 children)

gotta love doublespeak. like how when the news reports on Gaza, they reference Israeli families and Palestinians

[–] SARGE@startrek.website 59 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] grue@lemmy.world 22 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Except that it actually isn't always relative.

You can tell which society actually is more just and righteous because it's the one that's more egalitarian.

[–] technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

It's all relative. Even in that situation there is no egalatarianism between the two states. Perhaps the internal egalatarianism of one state depends on the oppressiveness of the other (eg. "democratic" empires reliant on oppressed colonies). There's no freedom until we're all free, etc.

[–] Cruel@programming.dev 12 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Was the shooting politically motivated?

The Catholic shooting had the shooter writing tons of political messaging on weapons and such. That's why it was both "targeted violence" and "terrorism".

Seems the Mormon shooter just didn't like Mormons, in general or some specific ones.

[–] NotMyOldRedditName@lemmy.world 18 points 2 months ago

Was the shooting politically motivated?

That requirement never bothers them when it suits their narrative.

"Terrorist" literally means "violence the state doesn't like".

[–] Dionysus@leminal.space 89 points 2 months ago (1 children)

We hit some new lows over the week with the MAGA gang desperately trying to characterize this UltraMAGAt who murdered 4 Church goers as anything other than one of them

Let's see if this gets Kimmel cancelled again.

He's got immunity for a few months at least; fasch don't like to remember how bad they got theit asses kicked.

[–] DrFistington@lemmy.world 54 points 2 months ago (3 children)

Mormons need to declare war on Trump, or vice versa. That will be a wrench that MAGA will not be able to unlodge gracefully.

[–] pennomi@lemmy.world 61 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Mormons used to hate Trump, they even voted strongly third party during the first election.

And then they fell in line, like good little conservative sheep. I was extremely disappointed.

[–] AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world 11 points 2 months ago

Disappointed by mormons? How could that even happen?

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 37 points 2 months ago

I don't think you're going to see a split. The Mormon Church has far too much invested structurally within the Republican Party. And the opposition party isn't offering them anything they actually want (theocracy, white nationalism, rapid imperial expansion).

The odd mass shooting is simply the price you pay for power in a country that puts so little value on a human life.

[–] ChicoSuave@lemmy.world 21 points 2 months ago (3 children)

Mormons are a Business Cult who cross pollinate their money across members' businesses and strongly encourage use of exclusively Mormon owned businesses. Trump somehow convinced those same conservative business leaders that he is Good At Business so the entire cult fell in line.

And they are also believers who are slow to change so this recent recession will not shake their faith. He can only be distrusted if they personally feel the downturn of the market.

[–] The_v@lemmy.world 8 points 2 months ago

It's a bit more entrenched than that. Mormons theology is elitist, racist, sexist, and hierarchical. The entire religion is built upon fear and a superiority complex.

Under the leadership of Benson, a staunch John Birch society member, and others like him the cult converted from a theocratic communist organization to an extreme rightwing corrupt corporate behemoth.

https://archive.sltrib.com/article.php?id=50349153&itype=cmsid

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Birch_Society

Today the Mormon church is one of the wealthiest organizations on the planet. They have a massive ownership of agricultural land, real estate, mega-corporations, and over a hundred billion in stocks and bonds. Billions of dollars of tax free money donated from members has that effect over 50 years. They give almost nothing of their take to humanitarian causes.

Mormons voted against Trump because Romney (long time Mormon elite family) was running. From 1951-1988 Marion Romney (a relation of Mitch) was part of the elite church leadership. It was not because they were against Trump.

[–] Zink@programming.dev 1 points 2 months ago

It makes a lot of sense to hear you describe it that way. In my limited experience they have this aspect to their culture where you are not the best version of yourself and perhaps not even a real man if you aren't an entrepreneur. If you just have a job you'd better be raking it in.

[–] HugeNerd@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 months ago

They're awful, no doubt, but damn if the Mormon Tabernacle Choir isn't amazing.

[–] socialsecurity@piefed.social 30 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Mormon church is a den of pedophiles.

[–] FistingEnthusiast@lemmynsfw.com 23 points 2 months ago (2 children)
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[–] Gerudo@lemmy.zip 25 points 2 months ago

Obligatory shocked Pikachu

[–] Sunflier@lemmy.world 23 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I'm sure they'll make up a way to blame transgender people.

[–] LiveLM@lemmy.zip 9 points 2 months ago

Inb4 "He was brainwashed by his trans GF!!!!1!1"

[–] resipsaloquitur@lemmy.world 19 points 2 months ago

Has Nancy mace demanded the death penalty?

[–] AtariDump@lemmy.world 9 points 2 months ago
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