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While deployed in Kuwait, Rosales, a member of the Texas Army National Guard, threw a birthday party for her husband. Some of the guests allegedly brought alcohol, according to the Army, “in a nation where such substances are illegal.” She was investigated and fingerprinted by an Army investigator, but received nothing more than an administrative reprimand.

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But here’s the problem: Every branch of the military shares titling records in criminal databases with more than two dozen agencies, including the FBI, even if the case was dropped.

The fallout can be devastating because the records are retrievable for decades. Veterans can be passed over for promotions, rejected on apartment applications, and denied firearms clearance, advocates say. With the stain on their record, some struggle to get a job for years.

“Who will take my word over the plain text of the FBI’s criminal history?” Rosales, 39, asks in an affidavit in her lawsuit.

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[–] fonix232@fedia.io 69 points 4 months ago (2 children)

theVeterans can be ... rejected on apartment applications

what the fuck is wrong in the US? You can have the money, the income, etc., and still be rejected an apartment just because there was a dropped criminal investigation in your past? Not even a conviction, just an investigation. I was investigated (case dropped) in Hungary because my ex flatmate defrauded a bunch of people in relation to the flat (landlord, electric, water and heating providers, among other things), then tried to blame me for them, going as far as reporting me to the police (who quickly discovered that I wasn't the responsible party at the times indicated and all the fraud happened after I moved out, so the case was dropped). In the US, a landlord could seriously deny my application for housing purely based on such an investigation taking place? This is beyond ridiculous.

[–] fluffykittycat@slrpnk.net 35 points 4 months ago

America is a shithole

[–] protist@mander.xyz -5 points 4 months ago (2 children)

I doubt this has to do with run-of-the-mill housing applications. I bet this is in regards to VA-specific housing programs

[–] ThinkBeforeYouPost@lemmy.world 18 points 4 months ago (1 children)
[–] fonix232@fedia.io 5 points 4 months ago

Sounds like at this point if you want to kill someone, it's enough to report them to the police.

They either get swatted or the investigation opened will make life impossible enough for them to commit suicide...

[–] fonix232@fedia.io 5 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Even if it is... You'd seriously deny a vet housing because they had an investigation opened against them, that, again, was closed without further action?

[–] socphoenix@midwest.social 1 points 4 months ago

Many places (jobs and housing) will say anything on a record is enough if it’s potentially worse than a parking ticket basically.

[–] JoMiran@lemmy.ml 61 points 4 months ago (3 children)

For a country where half the population fetishises the military and the vast majority "thanks them for their service", we sure do treat them like shit.

[–] SassyRamen@lemmy.world 20 points 4 months ago

Wait until you're a combat vet trying to get custody of your kids. My lawyer warned me that the judge sees that worse than having a fellony.

[–] Thedogdrinkscoffee@lemmy.ca 10 points 4 months ago

It's pretty comical from an outsider's POV. So god damned desperate and/or gullible.

[–] minnow@lemmy.world 4 points 4 months ago

Fascists love what the military and police represent (to them, strength and order) but any individual who deviates from the script is a traitor who deserves to have their life ruined or worse.

Just look at Kegbreath's speech to all the generals. Fascists don't care about reality (whether those generals were competent) but only care about the appearance of power (facial hair and too much weight around the middle don't "look powerful" and therefore are as bad as treason).

[–] foodandart@lemmy.zip 31 points 4 months ago (1 children)

If ever there was a reason to hesitate to join the military - regardless of what benefits it may offer, this is it.

Sweet Jesus, what a fiasco.

[–] FunctionallyLiterate@lemmy.ca 13 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

For America, that's more of a SNAFU.

[–] FerretyFever0@fedia.io 28 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Is it also punishable for queer service members to fuck in a country where it's illegal? Or even just unmarried service members in the same situation? It seems a bit silly.

[–] whiwake@sh.itjust.works 11 points 4 months ago (2 children)

If you go to a country and break the laws, you broke the laws. It doesn’t say if the party was on a military base or not

[–] ToastedRavioli@midwest.social 13 points 4 months ago

The US military itself imports alcohol to Kuwait to provide to military members on holidays or very special occasions. Its rare, but they do it

[–] FunctionallyLiterate@lemmy.ca 8 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

Which is absurd. While deployed, there's nowhere to relax and be themselves like every other human needs to do regularly. The bases should be considered "home" while off duty.

[–] whiwake@sh.itjust.works 14 points 4 months ago (2 children)

https://uscode.house.gov/view.xhtml?req=granuleid%3AUSC-prelim-title10-section892&num=0&edition=prelim

violates or fails to obey any lawful general order or regulation;

So I’m guessing that to be nice to the host country, there was an order for no alcohol. Having alcohol would technically be disobeying in order. I know it sounds ridiculous. I am not at all a fan of the military lol Or obedience

[–] PolarPirate@lemmy.zip 7 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

Can confirm. The US military follows host nation laws while over seas. That being said, they aren't necessarily going out of their way to enforce those rules. The alcohol thing is common because people start acting stupid and cause a scene, but you should be fine to peg your boy as long as you keep the noise down.

[–] FerretyFever0@fedia.io 2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Alright, so just be quiet about breaking the law then. Don't tell everyone about it.

[–] the_crotch@sh.itjust.works 3 points 4 months ago

Basically the same way it works everywhere, yes.

[–] FunctionallyLiterate@lemmy.ca 3 points 4 months ago

That makes two of us, and this just reinforced that notion.