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We put them in these costumes that were kind of goth-y. That was my premise: What if those witchcraft girls in high school dressed like they were in The Cure? I just had this idea that they should have a punk element. At that point, goth wasnโ€™t really a thing.

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/the-craft-oral-history_n_5734f7c9e4b060aa7819d362

[OP's note: it WAS really a thing, just these Hollywood types weren't aware of it.]

cross-posted from: !fullmoviesonyoutube@piefed.social btw they're having a "halloween-a-thon" there fulla seasonal movies, you should check it out!

What if the high-school goth kids REALLY WERE witches? That's the premise of this mid-90s movie that had the same kinda effect on some people as "The Crow". Personally in the early 00s I had a small carefully-curated collection of like 5-6 DVDs that I physically owned, and this was one of them.

Don't get the witches mad at ya!

hashtag Nancy did nothing wrong!

for more info: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Craft_(film)

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[โ€“] snooggums@piefed.world 8 points 2 months ago

[OP's note: it WAS really a thing, just these Hollywood types weren't aware of it.]

Pretty sure they were saying that goth wasn't 'a thing' as in a cool thing. Like how grunge and punk existed before they were 'a thing' in mainstream culture. Obviously goth kids existed to crib their look for the movie.

[โ€“] Hermit_Lailoken@lemmy.world 6 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (4 children)

A far better movie about Magick is The Lords of Illusion. Also a Dark song. IMO, The craft is like the sparkling vampires version of occult movies.

[โ€“] Eldritch@piefed.world 6 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Probably better than this version

[โ€“] Hermit_Lailoken@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago (1 children)

That looks like an 80's horror film.

[โ€“] Eldritch@piefed.world 5 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[โ€“] Sergio@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

for some reason I have a link to a copy of that free online: https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x97sxja I think it was being considered for a monsterdon watch party at some point...

[โ€“] Eldritch@piefed.world 3 points 2 months ago

I haven't seen it in 40 years, but it is one of those iconic sort of underground 80s horror films. nowhere near the notoriety or coverage of the slasher films of the late 80s. sort of a different take on the blob. Instead of eating people from the outside in, this goes from the inside out. There are some real, inventive and unique camera shots and special effects in this for the time. Not a ton, but they definitely put a lot of work into it and it isn't just some B movie, despite how bad some of the prosthetics look.

[โ€“] SamuraiBeandog@lemmy.world 5 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Lord of Illusions is super underrated in 80s horror, written and directed by Clive Barker it as good as Nightbreed and Hellraiser but nowhere near as well known as those films.

[โ€“] MeatPilot@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago (1 children)

It is awesome probably my favorite of the three you mentioned, but 1995 though.

Lord of Illusions

Only reason I looked it up was because I forgot how old I was when I saw it. After confirming I turned to dust writing this reply. Farewell.

[โ€“] SamuraiBeandog@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago

Ah interesting that its that much later, but I guess it makes sense when I think about the timeline. It feels like an 80s movie though :D

[โ€“] Hermit_Lailoken@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago

Nightbreed is a fantastic film.

[โ€“] snooggums@piefed.world 4 points 2 months ago

Lord of Illusion is more horrifying and with actually unsettling antagonists, but The Craft is an excellent teen horror movie. A fun romp of teenagers getting in way over their heads with the supernatural.

Both are solid movies for their intended audiences.

[โ€“] Sergio@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Thanks for the tip, looks like Lords of Illusion is free at Tubi: https://tubitv.com/movies/546980/clive-barker-s-lord-of-illusions (uBlock Origin adblocker seems to work on it too.)

Yeah, The Craft is definitely a time-and-place kinda thing. I think it was kinda like the "Wednesday" miniseries is nowadays in introducing kids to the idea of "dark culture" and maybe some people look into it deeper. And The Craft was made before Buffy and Hunger Games etc and back then they weren't really thinking of making things for YA girls/women. But it's still an imperfect though entertaining movie, and Fairuza Balk in particular did an outstanding job.

[โ€“] Hermit_Lailoken@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago

Good points, I would rather their intro to dark culture be Wednesday.

I am working on my culture snobbery, lol.

[โ€“] Sergio@lemmy.world 5 points 2 months ago

It's Sunday, the day of drawing the circle and revering Manon!

Personally I'm trying to think of a way to use this screencap in a meme, maybe before the next bandcamp friday or something.

[โ€“] Gullible@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

BONUS FILM: there was a sequel โ€œThe Craft: Legacyโ€ made in 2020 that used a whole different set of kids.

What?? Howโ€™d I miss that? Thanks OP!

[โ€“] VerseAndVermin@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I heard it was very very rough. The original was not perfect but had its charms. For this comment I checked and it sits at 2.1 out of 5 on Letterboxd.

[โ€“] Sergio@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I just re-watched it, and that score is undeservedly low. Looking over the IMDB (4.6/10) reviews, a big chunk of them were expecting a horror film (apparently it was marketed with a "Blumhouse's..." prefix, and they make horror films?) and were disappointed. Another big chunk don't like it bc it was too "woke" -- well, look around, you don't have that problem any more. There's another bunch that don't like the "loose ends" and underdeveloped characters -- they have a point. This movie could have used another 20 minutes to accomodate more info about the characters, and still been under 2 hours. So if an audience member likes to have everything spelled out for them (which, fair enough; this woulda made a great miniseries) then they have a legitimate gripe. Personally I think it gives just enough info for you to figure out the details, and focuses solidly on the coming-of-age / discovery of self-identity storyline.

@Gullible@sh.itjust.works -- in addition, this was released almost towards the end of covid. I wonder, what did you think about it?

[โ€“] Gullible@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 months ago

I havenโ€™t watched it just yet. Iโ€™ll try to reply after I do!