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Article here and video of exchange here. He spoke to her like she was a piece of shit IN FRONT OF ALL HER COLLEAGUES AND CAMERAS. Unacceptable, inexcusable behaviour from him and I'm so glad her sisters stood up for her!

Who here would have walked out too?

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[–] aramis87@fedia.io 66 points 4 months ago (2 children)

That guy gives major "if you don't treat me as an authority, I won't treat you as a human" vibes.

Also I'm not sure how he thinks saying "you are damaged" is somehow better than having said "you are dumbhead".

[–] LadyButterfly@piefed.blahaj.zone 20 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I know, both are horrible. And it's his whole "I'm talking" shit he clearly wanted to degrade her and make himself feel like the big guy. Horrible.

[–] aramis87@fedia.io 18 points 4 months ago (4 children)

I'm not even sure about wanting to degrade her. He's a Thai executive. Traditionally women are supposed to defer to men there, and I get the impression that he wasn't even thinking about the pageant women as people, more like products he's supposed to be showcasing. So initially he's upset when he doesn't get the deference / obeisance he's unconsciously expecting, doubles-down on that, doubles down again when he gets pushback, and then is flabbergasted when his "product" starts to disobediently walk out.

He doesn't see women as equals so he's flummoxed when his gender norms are repeatedly challenged, and he doesn't see the pageant women as people, just product. It's also really interesting to me how frustrated and bewildered he is in that "apology" video, like, "why is no one listening to me, to my side of the event, naturally everyone should be siding with me and not those foolish women!"

With that attitude, he should never have been allowed within a hundred miles of the pageant - and it doesn't bode well that none of the people in charge of the Thai competition never realized that. I fully expect the replacement to be overly obsequious to the women, with the entire Thai organization angrily muttering among themselves in the background about how unnecessary this all is and women should just know their place ... /:

[–] ZDL@lazysoci.al 12 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

That is a pretty degrading view of Thai people in general there. It's also outdated.

The Thai prime minister from 2010-2014, depicted here...

...(that's correct: a woman in the highest elected post before the USA has had one!) shepherded equity laws the first of which became the law of the land in 2015: The Gender Equality Act. (This after she was ousted for corruption—and on the face of it it was a fair ousting—so apparently gender equity in Thailand was important enough that even after the female prime minister's ouster they kept it going forward.)

Currently women as entrepreneurs are increasingly accepted from almost zero in 2010 to a rather sizable number of recognized and admired entrepreneurs today at 40-45% with government support of "Women SMEs" helping grow this. Thailand beats the world average in female researchers and grant awardees at about 45-50%. And while it is by no means a feminist paradise, it is reductive and grossly insulting to characterize all of Thailand from the performance of that one person.

In many ways (though not all) Thailand has advanced past North America in the status of women.

[–] LadyButterfly@piefed.blahaj.zone 3 points 4 months ago

That's an excellent point. Women should be ~~ogled~~ seen but not heard, they should do as they're told without question and they're property. These women are products to him, not people.

[–] KurtVonnegut@mander.xyz 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Yes, makes a lot of sense. (Do you have a link to the apology video? I read somewhere he was crying?)

[–] aramis87@fedia.io 1 points 4 months ago

The bit that I saw was at the end of the BBC video that OP linked above.

[–] Fmstrat@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago

"You caused damage"

[–] ZDL@lazysoci.al 28 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (2 children)

Who here would have walked out too?

I wouldn't have been in that gathering in the first place. Sadly not because of any ethical issue but rather because I'm not in those rarefied heights. 🤣

But I have to say it warms the cold cockles of my cynical heart to see sisters in competition with each other closing ranks to support one of their own.

In a social media video statement, Mr Nawat said: "If anyone feels bad, uncomfortable, or affected, I apologise to everyone. I especially apologised to the girls who were present, around 75 of them."

Ah yes. The non-apology approach to apology. "I'm sorry you feel bad." Fuck you, Mr. Nawat. No, on second thought, fuck off. Nobody should be touching you with anything even remotely sensual.

[–] LadyButterfly@piefed.blahaj.zone 15 points 4 months ago

The apology starts at about 02:10 here. He self pityingly cries, says he's under pressure and that he said damaged not dumb!! He basically says "if anyone's upset I'm sorry" so even with all the backlash he's not taking responsibility

[–] nova_ad_vitum@lemmy.ca 5 points 4 months ago (1 children)

That dipshit's wiki entry is a hilarious series of him being a jackass. Like I get that brilliant people sometimes get away with being assholes but I honestly have to wonder - what possible special aptitude could this guy have that lets him survive behaving this way?

[–] ZDL@lazysoci.al 7 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Most of the "brilliant" people who get away with being assholes turn out not to even be particularly brilliant, irony of ironies. Their assholery starts to expose just how utterly un-brilliant they are.

Kaptain Ketamine with his Nazi salutes is the prime example of this, but so is Jeff Bezos and Peter Thiel and, indeed, that whole TESCREAL crowd who act like they're the über-intelligent coterie who will save humanity ... while wearing clown pants and putting on the grease paint.

[–] Taleya@aussie.zone 2 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

I'm not gonna lie, i find the whole lot of them hilarious. Doesn't matter how hard they puff, a bullfrog is still a bullfrog. Batshit overwrought "philosophies" and lies strutting around like painted whores- just fucking admit you're a self involved greedy sociopath terrified of death.

My damned cat has lived a life of more value

[–] JackbyDev@programming.dev 26 points 4 months ago

I've seen a follow up where he is claiming he didn't call her dumb but said damage instead, but

  1. In that sentence that's still insulting.
  2. His entire time throughout the exchange is awful. It's not like he said just one bad thing.
[–] ZDL@lazysoci.al 12 points 4 months ago

The full story is even wilder than I thought it was!

That really crap movie Showgirls had as an important plot element that the guy running the show was evil.

This guy exceeds the FICTITIOUS villain of a movie who was portrated as OVER THE TOP evil.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t51gb42XB38

[–] just_ducky_in_NH@lemmy.world 12 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Hey Lady, the article link gives me a 404 error. . .

[–] Zikeji@programming.dev 10 points 4 months ago (1 children)

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cy40q990g28o

Off TopicI don't think I'm allowed to post here, so I won't be offended if someone else posts the link and my message gets removed.

[–] LadyButterfly@piefed.blahaj.zone 11 points 4 months ago

Thanks Zikeji we are women only so please don't comment again, but I'm leaving your comment because it's supportive. Love seeing men help women!

[–] LadyButterfly@piefed.blahaj.zone 8 points 4 months ago

Thanks ducky I edited it

[–] rosco385@lemmy.wtf 11 points 4 months ago

The world is full of cunts like that guy.

[–] Amuletta@lemmy.ca 9 points 4 months ago

Good for them!