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[–] corvidenjoyer@hexbear.net 30 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

Ukraine isn't just a country, its an idea.

liberalism

[–] TankieTanuki@hexbear.net 26 points 3 months ago

The Ukraine beanis

[–] FlakesBongler@hexbear.net 23 points 3 months ago (1 children)

CNN was calling it a "mainly symbolic" victory for Russia

Which, I dunno, taking a densely industrialized center with an entrenched resistance force within the span of a year is actually fairly impressive in the history of modern warfare

But what do I know?

[–] FortifiedAttack@hexbear.net 33 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

Everything Russia takes is a symbolic victory because Ukraine itself does not really matter to the West. The Russians could take every last city, every last plot of land, kill every last soldier, and all the Westener would see is opportunity -- opportunity to militarize further and keep the tumbling economy afloat.

I sincerely believe that's the whole calculus behind Europe constantly suggesting ridiculous, unacceptable terms to Russia. They know they won't accept, they know the Russians are winning the war, and they want them to keep advancing because they are profiting from Russia staying on people's minds, scaring them in militarization. They have become dependent on the war economy.

[–] Damarcusart@hexbear.net 19 points 3 months ago

It becomes a question of which faction of the western bourgeoisie will win out; the ones who stand to make a lot of money from a massive perpetual war economy, and those who stand to make a lot of money by instituting austerity measures on whatever rump state remains in Ukraine and extracting all their resources and labour power.

[–] john_brown@hexbear.net 14 points 3 months ago

I like to imagine the ghouls who bought all the state property that Ukkkraine auctioned off are increasingly enraged as they watch "their" properties get captured by Russian forces