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Solar power and storage prices have dropped almost 90%::undefined

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[-] tun@lemm.ee 32 points 11 months ago

85-87% reduced in last 10 years

[-] cyberpunk007@lemmy.world 19 points 11 months ago

I was still quoted 40K CAD. 20 year ROI. Not feasible for me.

[-] Buffalox@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago

Was that recently or last year? Prices were out of control last year. Here prices have dropped almost 30% just since May.

[-] scarabic@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago

Wow. 3000 square foot home here so we had a sizable system. It was $15k USD.

[-] cyberpunk007@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago

Ha, mines like 1200

[-] baked_tea@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago

Well it's the company/ies not the product

[-] partial_accumen@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Is that paying cash for the solar system or financing? Financing can devastate the ROI with interest rates today. I'm looking at as long as 12 year ROI with possibly as short as 7 year ROI if I consider the USA's federal tax incentives. My slightly southern latitude (a border state with Canada) also likely contributes to slightly higher generation results using the same equipment.

How are the government incentives in Canada? I'm super envious of your great hydro power, my neighbor.

[-] Pxtl@lemmy.ca 1 points 11 months ago

How much of that is installation costs?

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[-] CptOblivius@lemmy.world 14 points 11 months ago

I looked into getting solar installed. Best I could get in my area was $45k for a 10kW system or $97k for a 20kW with 2 power walls for storage. F that, even with government subsided rates.

[-] Cryophilia@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago

That's just absurd, why is it so expensive for you? You could install it yourself for the most part, it's not super complicated, just physically difficult. And then pay an electrician $500 to connect the inverter to your main panel.

[-] CptOblivius@lemmy.world 4 points 11 months ago

Lack of competition, but mostly greed.

[-] 0ddysseus@lemmy.world 13 points 11 months ago

Ah yes. This is why batteries in Aus cost the same as they did 10 years ago. Capitalism working as intended

[-] zephyreks@programming.dev 10 points 11 months ago

Think of all the profits you're delivering to shareholders!

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[-] jetsetdorito@lemm.ee 12 points 11 months ago

POV reading this headline while paying $0.4-$0.5 /kWh

[-] Tire@lemmy.ml 3 points 11 months ago
[-] Buffalox@lemmy.world 5 points 11 months ago

It's the same here (Denmark), and it's not about whether we use solar, but if countries more suited for it do, which should decrease the price of electricity across countries. Just like when the Ukraine war caused gas to increase in price, electricity of all of Europe increased in price, disregarding their use or dependency on gas.

[-] Polar@lemmy.ca 2 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Damn. Ontario Canada is 15.1-24 cents per kWh.

[-] Test_Tickles@lemmynsfw.com 5 points 11 months ago

I hate to be pedantic, but the things in the picture are windmills... you know giant whirly things that are powered by wind... kind of very different from things that lie around and absorb sunlight.

[-] TheMauveAvenger@lemmy.world 39 points 11 months ago

You want pedantic? Those are wind turbines, champ. Windmills are used to mill grain, no matter how many people like yourself try to bastardize the term to apply to anything that rotates with air.

What's next for you people, pinwheels are now windmills?

[-] Test_Tickles@lemmynsfw.com 6 points 11 months ago

I told you I hate to be pedantic.

[-] slumberlust@lemmy.world 5 points 11 months ago

Sorry, but not all wind mills are used for grain. Some ground stone and other material!

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[-] Patius@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago

What if the turbines are hooked up to an electric milling machine ?

[-] AdmiralShat@programming.dev 2 points 11 months ago

Then it's a windmilf

[-] surewhynotlem@lemmy.world 10 points 11 months ago

Wait until you hear what creates wind!

[-] Patius@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago

There's a man in the clouds who blows really hard.

But the plants he eats grow in sunlight.

[-] phx@lemmy.ca 3 points 11 months ago

But, but... what if we put solar panels on the windmills? ;-)

Actually I double checked and solar-assisted windmills are a thing though not likely what's shown in the picture. Actually now I'm wondering if you could also use solar to concentrate a local heat differential and power a wind turbine (though liquid is probably more efficient)

[-] billygoat@catata.fish 2 points 11 months ago

That is inefficient, we should put windmills on solar panels.

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[-] Buffalox@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago

Yes it's a stupid picture, the solar panels are in the background, not nearly as noticeable as the wind turbines.

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[-] naut@lemmy.ml 4 points 11 months ago

If we use tax money, if it is important for entire world and survival of humans, then we wouldn't even care or notice

[-] zephyreks@lemmy.ca 2 points 11 months ago

Thanks, China.

[-] tony@lemmy.hoyle.me.uk 2 points 11 months ago

Maybe raw battery cost has reduced but installed storage is 30% more expensive than it was a couple of years ago, and it was too expensive then..

[-] zoe@infosec.pub 1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

probably when using carbon cathodes instead of cobalt, the energy density drops from 300wh/kg to just 150wh/kg, so u would need extra anode/electrolyte mass to store the same amount of energy.i bet that those prices hikes are a result of diversion from rare earth metal mining..but just a guess

[-] hgtesla@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

The reason include the increased efficiency of solar panels, government incentive measures, the widespread adoption of electric vehicles, and advancements of battery technology, especially lithium-ion batteries. solar and energy storage are expected to continue becoming more affordable, contributing to efforts to address climate change.

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