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Popular Alliance sounds a lot better.
I feel it's only going to be a gift for Reform. Talk about splitting the left vote.... they're splitting themselves!
Splitting the left vote from what.
The labour party already outright rejected the left. After lying to them to take power.
For all greens growth. They have never been a huge left wing draw. They are a very centrist membership. As is ZPs political history. And given the lefts recent history with centrists has lead to Starmer etc.
The simple fact is. No one party will successfully unit the left as a whole.
With FPTP the only way the left is going to represent the population it actually holds. Is pre electoral agreements of some form.
Fortunately both Green and YP are very much considering that nessesery.
My opinion. It's a bit like planning a PR like unification without PR. And is likely the only way to implement PR while larger party's try to force their FPTP advantage.
Are they a very centrist membership, especially since Polanski became leader and the massive influx of new members after that? He won with a huge majority over the centrist candidates and the amount of members has almost trebled since he won. And has he had a particularly centrist political history? He used to be a Lib Dem sure but he left them in 2017. If he's still pushed for centrist policies in recent years then I'd like to know about it. But either way he clearly isn't a centrist now. The difference between him and Starmer is that the Greens are far more democratic than Labour and the members can make the party have a left wing agenda, regardless of the leader's views. Starmer won the leadership on a centre-left platform and then showed he's actually right wing further down the line. But any left wing Labour members have very little power to influence party policy
And also have Your Party said they're willing to have electoral agreements with the Greens? From what I've seen so far the implication from YP is that they wouldn't. But I'd be happy to be wrong
I can't comment on your first paragraph but I saw a video of Owen Jones interviewing Corbyn in a park a few months ago where Corbyn said he'd already discussed electoral agreements with Polanski not to stand candidates in seats that the other party is more likely to win.
Obviously Corbyn isn't Your Party manifest, but he (and Sultana) are the closest things to individual voices of authority so if he said that I think it likely they're willing to work together in some manner.
I'm too busy with work to look up the video just now (cheeky quick Lemmy check and back to it) but it was on Owen Jones' YouTube page.
Ahh I see fair enough! Yeah you're right that Corbyn's opinion isn't the law of YP but that's still encouraging. As much as I see issues with YP I don't see them as an overall bad entity at all. And in my opinion the priority needs to be an antifascist coalition, in both the electoral and community levels. I'm sure there are many (hopefully most) in both parties that feel the same
That was a good read, ta!
And what are they offering that the green party doesn't?
Your Party are an explicitly socialist party and want to replace capitalism with socialism. The Greens are a social democratic party (actual social democrats, not the faux ones that the majority of "social democratic" European parties are). That isn't to say there aren't socialist members of the Greens, probably most of them are. I'm one of them. There's just a lot of reasons not to support Your Party even if you are socialist, as I see it
Corbyn is a big brand name and the Greens are still a bit bullish on militarism. But both Greens and YP are much better than the other options.
Green are bullish in militarism?
Greens are still a bit bullish on militarism
Lmao what?
The party that wants to defend much of our defence, scrap nuclear weapons, leave NATO?
I'd highly disagree with your assesment. The only people that would think Greens are bullish on "militarism" are those let's get rid of all of our defensive capability types.
A party that isn’t led by a man who claimed he could perform breast enlargement using only hypnosis.
Then again it isn’t led by anyone.
Got a source that he claimed he can? Pretty sure it was someone at the sun pretending to be a journalist.
Thanks, middle east eye....
Fun fact MEE is based in the UK.
Also this article was probably the most comprehensive one of the mess I've read so far.