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[–] Archangel1313@lemmy.ca 37 points 2 months ago (2 children)

So much for "America first", I guess?

[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago

You believed that?

(/s obvs not)

[–] cassandrafatigue@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

No, this is economic warfare against China.

[–] Archangel1313@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

"Against" China? Sounds more like "for" China.

Looking at what they've done for the American economy and environment?

Nah. I dunno if this is thermonuclear, but its at least a real big dirty bomb.

[–] Trebuchet@europe.pub 26 points 2 months ago

This should keep the AI bubble inflated just a bit longer

[–] D1re_W0lf@piefed.world 8 points 2 months ago (1 children)

As a non citizen of the United States, but knowing that republicans just approved the opposite a few days ago and now this, just makes it harder to follow and expect any logic from what might come next.

[–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago

If you want to predict government, get good ay predicting dipshits

[–] NaibofTabr@infosec.pub 7 points 2 months ago (1 children)

China's not interested anymore. The PRC is "encouraging" companies to buy locally developed chips.

[–] nymnympseudonym@piefed.social 1 points 2 months ago (2 children)

They're not going to develop GPUs

[–] Randomgal@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Lol what? They already did.

[–] nymnympseudonym@piefed.social 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Not ones to compete with NVidia Not ones that will train GPT5/6/7

[–] cassandrafatigue@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

The.... That's not

Enough data to train a hypothetical gpt6 literally does not exist.

[–] nymnympseudonym@piefed.social 0 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Most frontier models since GPT4 actually use synthetic pre-training data , before slurping up the Internet and after along with RLHF

~~too many fingers~~ sausage fingers

[–] nymnympseudonym@piefed.social 1 points 2 months ago

Also training data is totally independent of chip feature size, interconnects, memory bandwidth, and all the things actually relevant to chips

[–] NaibofTabr@infosec.pub 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

GPUs are not the target. Purpose-built AI chips are.

[–] nymnympseudonym@piefed.social 1 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

There are a few big companies investing in TPU architectures (afaik, mostly Meta and OpenAI). All their stuff is planned to be exclusively manufactured by TSMC. Not because they want that choke point, but because it's the only fab on the planet with the ability to produce them

If China invades Taiwan and TSMC blows up the fabs to deny them the chips, the whole world loses the ability. For years, not months.

(Edit: FWIW the TPUs are 3nm chips with crazy advanced HBM, China is not making them any time soon)