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[–] katja@lemmy.blahaj.zone 28 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Aaaand that's me uninstalling Firefox

[–] reseller_pledge609@lemmy.dbzer0.com 17 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

LibreWolf will likely be a good replacement.

[–] galoisghost@aussie.zone 7 points 1 week ago (2 children)

My biggest problem with these forks is they’re still reliant on Firefox itself.

I feel like we need a clean break.

I hear you and I agree, but for now it's the best we've got.

[–] hellfire103@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

WebKit (e.g. GNOME Web, vimb, surf) is always there, and Servo is coming on leaps and bounds.

Also, for your consideration, there are:

  • w3m (text-based, but supports displaying images with sixel, kitty, or framebuffer)
  • Links2 (surprisingly usable)
  • Dillo (better engine, but less features)
  • NetSurf (better again, but you can't use a custom search engine and the JS engine doesn't seem to work)
  • Chawan (text-based, but actually supports modern HTML and CSS; can display images using sixel or kitty; also supports gemini[^1])
  • Ladybird (bad dev, good product)
  • Stargate & Duckling (HTTP to Gemini[^1] proxies, so you can browse the web with Lagrange)
  • Pale Moon & Basilisk (based on a fork of Gecko; still use XUL; may be a bit less secure, but disable JS and you might be alright)

Of course Librewolf, Waterfox, Tor Browser, ans Mullvad Browser are doing their best to resist the bullshit.


[^1]: The network protocol; not the LLM.

[–] lurch@sh.itjust.works 25 points 1 week ago

Seen on Imgur earlier:

Screenshot of a message about Firefox joining the browsers hammering their own genitals

Source: https://imgur.com/gallery/zQCk3V2 (But apparently Imgur is using AI in moderation now and users complain about deleted images. So who knows if this will be gone soon.)

[–] gtr@programming.dev 13 points 1 week ago

Oh god please, no!

[–] xyro@lemmy.ca 9 points 1 week ago

Sad to see Mozilla becoming what they were supposed to protect us from...

[–] hperrin@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 week ago
[–] robocall@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago (2 children)

But lemmy taught me a couple years ago to use Firefox instead of chrome and now I don't know what to use next

[–] rozodru@pie.andmc.ca 5 points 1 week ago

there's still plenty of firefox forks you can use that won't go this ai route or will simply turn it off by default. Librewolf, mullvad, zen, floorp, etc.

if you want to go the chrome route there's vivaldi although for whatever reason lately it doesn't save anything when i'm using it on nixos and it's kind of an ugly bloated mess now.

I use Qutebrowser so I have none of the issues from either.

[–] DebatableRaccoon@lemmy.ca 0 points 1 week ago

Give Vivaldi a look

Recently switched to Mullvad, I like it