r/pcmasterrace morons attempting an anti-Linux meme : linuxmemes

[-] captain_oni@lemmy.world 85 points 9 months ago

I guess, all depends on what type of driver you're installing; but I had to install win10 on my brother's PC last week, these are the steps I had to take to install AMD's drivers (because the ones included with windows suck):

Open Edge.
Download Opera (his browser of choice) and install it.
Google "AMD Drivers", go to the website
Lookup the exact model of the processor: "Ryzen 3 3200G".
Try to guess what fucking .exe file to download, since their descriptions are vague.
Double click the .exe.
next, deselect bloatware, next, install.
Error on installation
Lookup error code.
Turns out Windows was downloading (not installing) an update at the same time, without telling me.
Wait 15 minutes for windows to finish doing whatever it wants to do, without user consent.
Reboot machine.
Try again. Next, next, deselect bloatware, next, install
Reboot machine again.
(OPTIONAL) Curse Bill Gates, Steve Balmer and Satya Nadella for making me waste my time.

[-] Nefyedardu@kbin.social 37 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

I don't know why it's become a stigma that installing things on Linux is hard when Windows requires you to Google sketchy .exes and .msis because their app store is so trash. For 99% of packages on Linux you can just open the software manager and click install.

[-] AnonTwo@kbin.social 3 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Because Windows doesn't require you to google sketchy .exes and .msis....

Unless you just consider them inherently sketchy, but can't really do anything about that. Hell the backlash for the store was mainly because people wanted to keep using .exes's.

[-] Johanno@feddit.de 16 points 9 months ago

Because their app store sucks!

Install drivers per app store? Negative.

Install vlc per app store? Get a half assed "mobile" Version that lacks most Features.

But candy crush is already installed. Great!

[-] captain_oni@lemmy.world 11 points 9 months ago

Remember that you can't mod the games you get through the windows store either. (unless they changed that recently?)

[-] 01189998819991197253@infosec.pub 6 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

They did not. In fact, Windows ships in S mode now, which means you can't install ANYTHING outside of the appstore. Not even Office downloaded directly from Office(dot)com. You can turn S mode off, for now, but you need to (and I'm not shittin you) install an app from the appstore that disables S mode. But not without confirming that you're serious several times, and read through fear mongering with a "you get viruses if you install outside the appstore" scare tactic.

Edit: killed the auto-URL

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[-] railsdev@programming.dev 14 points 9 months ago

The last time installed printer drivers on Windows it was like 5 GB.

Are they reimplementing the entire OS or what? Does Windows just not have some standard way of communicating with printers?

I know a lot times they want to bundle their trash software along with the drivers but even then… 5 GB?

[-] SpikesOtherDog@ani.social 7 points 9 months ago

I'll bite. What printer drivers are 5G? HP universal driver is 22MB.

[-] Late2TheParty@lemmy.world 7 points 9 months ago

I. Fucking. LOATHE Windows updates and the shenanigans they cause. Flames of hate!

[-] SpaghettiYeti@lemmy.world 3 points 9 months ago

I have a w10 PC and an Nvidia card. You install NVidia GeForce Experience and click "download", then "install".

For AMD, you would install AMD Catalyst and do the same.

No bloatware for either.. don't do things the hard way!

[-] iloverocks@feddit.de 12 points 9 months ago

You must log in into geforce to use it=spyware

Give me my driver and nothing more

[-] SpaghettiYeti@lemmy.world 3 points 9 months ago

Make a fake email?

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[-] albert@lemmy.sysctl.io 12 points 9 months ago

nVidia drivers also contain on-by-default telemetry you just installed willingly.

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[-] captain_oni@lemmy.world 8 points 9 months ago

well, GeForce Experience IS bloatware IMO, so... I'm screwed that way, I guess.

[-] BURN@lemmy.world 3 points 9 months ago

Don’t even need GeForceExperience. You can download the driver installation exe directly from Nvidia without installing the bloatware.

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[-] riodoro1@lemmy.world 52 points 9 months ago

Next next finish

Wait, why the fuck are there three new icons on my desktop? What is this bullshit in the tray?

What the fuck is nvidiaupdatechecker.exe and why is is consuming 10% of my cpu?

[-] kaffeeringe@feddit.de 26 points 9 months ago

Why do I have to create an account an log in to install a driver?

[-] float@feddit.de 11 points 9 months ago

Aaaand blue screen.

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[-] drkt@feddit.dk 45 points 9 months ago

I'm impressed they got it wrong for both platforms

[-] bioemerl@kbin.social 29 points 9 months ago

No, that's about how it is on Linux.

Some drivers just work. Others? Absolute pain in the ass. If it doesn't work on first boot you're probably screwed.

Source: my laptops audio still doesn't work with Linux.

[-] dr_jekell@lemmy.world 16 points 9 months ago

That's because laptop (and some desktop motherboard) manufacturers love to cut costs wherever they can so they end up using some weird non standard sound card from Billy Bob's discount computer parts because they know they can require the use of drivers to band aid over the shitty hardware with a software fix.

Then when using Linux it tends to either not work or have shit sound until some kind soul adds in a config file for the devices sound card.

[-] SrTobi@feddit.de 7 points 9 months ago

Praise all the kind souls! Thank you

[-] Nefyedardu@kbin.social 7 points 9 months ago

None of those commands install drivers on linux tho. What audio driver couldn't you install?

[-] AnonTwo@kbin.social 5 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

It looks like the OP was trying to shorthand (not show entirely)
->Just updating Ubtuntu to see if it fixes the issue
->cloning a github repo and then trying to build a driver themselves
->Checking with modprobe to see if it worked (I don't remember the command clearly, I've only actually done this once like 2 years ago)

The syntax error at the end is probably more for dramatic effect and would've occurred when trying to make the repo. But at the bare minimum using Apt to update->upgrade your distro would update a driver if it was already installed and just outdated.

[-] const_void@lemmy.ml 3 points 9 months ago

What audio chip do you have?

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[-] DLSchichtl@lemmy.world 26 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

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[-] qjkxbmwvz 21 points 9 months ago

streamline that shit

Or mainline that shit

for me, "true" Linux support means drivers are in the mainline kernel, and will Just Work. Not sure I've ever had problems with drivers for an RS232 dongle on Linux, but I definitely have under Windows.

[-] slazer2au@lemmy.world 26 points 9 months ago

Windows is more like

Run exe

No don't install antivirus

No don't install toolbar

Yes I read the agreement

Install

[-] raubarno@lemmy.ml 10 points 9 months ago

Yes I read the agreement

[-] slazer2au@lemmy.world 16 points 9 months ago

iTunes? I prefer the Amazon Lumberyard terms

[-] 01189998819991197253@infosec.pub 4 points 9 months ago

I don't see the problem. I find this an extremely fair EULA term.

[-] AnonTwo@kbin.social 7 points 9 months ago

What driver does that?

Software I've definitely seen it, but drivers?

[-] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 6 points 9 months ago

…. Well, windows might have an ulterior motive…. But it’d right about not installing chrome. Firefox, my friend.

Granted windows is also line “no don’t install Firefox!”

Also windows driver installs babe a 50/50 chance of still not working.

[-] avidamoeba@lemmy.ca 17 points 9 months ago

[-] ScrambleVerdict@monyet.cc 16 points 9 months ago

My arch install: sudo pacman -Syu Windows: search for the driver, install it, get 3 pieces of additional bloatware. Device works now but is buggy.

I guess I'm cursed though because both my windows and arch are always acting up..

[-] JackRiddle@sh.itjust.works 15 points 9 months ago

Windows: "driver for graphics card not found. Go fuck yourself."

[-] SayJess@lemmy.blahaj.zone 15 points 9 months ago

Fuck it, here’s an ad.

[-] AnonTwo@kbin.social 7 points 9 months ago

What card?? I've literally never seen this in 20-30 years.

Most cards are made with Windows in mind first and foremost.

[-] raubarno@lemmy.ml 6 points 9 months ago

Actually, I got an error "Cannot install Windows, missing (graphics) drivers". Debian Live did boot without any problem, though.

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[-] 01189998819991197253@infosec.pub 13 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

I don't remember the last time I had to manually install a driver on Linux.

But I do remember the last time I had to manually install a driver on Windows. I had to revert the change in safe mode, because it wouldn't boot after the install. To be fair to Windows, it was an old PS/2 to USB adaptor. To be fair to the adaptor, it was plug-and-play on OpenSuse, Mint, and Fedora.

Edit: it was Win10 21H1, I believe.

[-] HubertManne@kbin.social 12 points 9 months ago

I rarely have to install a driver on either one. They both come with or auto install.

[-] SuicideEnthusiast@lemmy.world 10 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

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[-] SimplyTadpole@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 9 months ago

I had Windows literally delete my graphics drivers because it decided to download "new" ones (read: the default fallback driver) and made me unable to play anything. And when I went through the trouble of figuring out how to get AMD's software center to redownload it, Windows did it again.

On an unrelated note, that happened on my second-to-last day of using Windows.

[-] mlg@lemmy.world 5 points 8 months ago

Hahahahahahahaha hell no My Nvidia experience on windows required me to setup a whole ass nvidia account just to get access to the crappy nvidia software to install the drivers

My Nvidia experience on fedora was sudo dnf install akmod-nvidia

Not to mention the utterly useless auto driver install from windows which would either:

fail to find drivers meaning I had to go search for them on google
download the driver release from 2 years ago
use some generic Microsoft driver (goto option 1)
overwrite my manually installed latest driver (goto option 1)

[-] AVincentInSpace@pawb.social 4 points 9 months ago

oh, don't mind me, i'm just over here using my graphics tablet that linux came with drivers for and which worked out of the box (including pressure sensing) as soon as i plugged it in, and printing on my printer which CUPS auto-detected and went from new laptop to printing in 30 seconds, and which i have never had any issues with

[-] dingleberry@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 9 months ago

Glass houses and all that.