China was smart the last decades. Many countries depend on chinas exports. And no country will say a word against them in fear of loosing cheap techwares.
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These kind of reports, clearly involving CCP cooperation and involvement in a war against Europe, are showing up more frequently.
"The main partners in the project are Russia and China."
This is an ammunition factory in Belarus they are talking about. So basically Europe is helping CCP fund the Ruzz war effort, [ by importing Chinese goods]. Like we did with Ruzzia and their gaZ.
And what can we do? Will we stop funding that and, more importantly ,can we? No more (re)importing chips, Li batteries, EV's, temu, ali xpress ? Also, what will and can Ukraine do?# Ed [ in brackets]
Huh? How is Europe helping Russia here? This is Belarus, not Europe that is helping Russia.
To me, this just sounds like a way for Russia to build a factory that is unlikely to get bombed, while still being close to the front.
I am not sure, but I assume what @Riddick3001 wants to say with their comment is that by buying Chinese products, we help them funding the war as China is using it to, for example, help build weapons. At least that's my interpretation of the comment.
Yes @Rednax like @Sepia says. [ Added in brackets] in other comment to clarify.
Unlikely to get bombed, you say?
Ukraine probably won't attack/bomb Belarus directly. Hence the factory is likely safer in Belarus than in Russia.
Maybe we'll see a future of several global trade blocs with Cold War-like trade restrictions for dual-use goods between these blocs, accompanied by a tit-for-tat trade rather than deeper trade agreements?
Maybe the EU will have some free trade agreements (Canada, Australia, New Zealand, Japan, South Korean,and maybe some countries in Asia, Africa, and Latin America like the Mercosur members), and more tit-for-tat trade with all others?
Not necessarily 'de-coupling' but 'de-risking.' For Europe this would definitely mean EV, solar panels, cloud infrastructure, and other critical products will be made in Europe?
If this is the way, it will be not easy for Europe, but a disaster for China and the US in the long run as they rely heavily on Europe in their product trade and service industries, respectively.
Just my 2 cents.
it will be not easy for Europe, but a disaster for China and the US in the long
China will be fine. Like building their own mobile phone chips, and now GPU chips, they will replace all European technology. The other direction, there is no strategic need to sell to the EU.
The US sells overpriced gas to the EU and the EU promised investments to produce things locally in the US.
The disaster is waiting for the EU.
"Not necessarily 'de-coupling' but 'de-risking.' For Europe this would definitely mean EV, solar panels, cloud infrastructure, and other critical products will be made in Europe? "
Yes, a very probable scenario under these circumstances. And we should be happy that we ( in theory within time and lots of efforts) can reach a reasonable autonomy, while many other countries can't. Those who can't will therefore most likely fall under one or another block.