My usual approach when trying Debian on a desktop or workstation: if I have to install a single package from testing or sid, fuck this and just use Arch or Fedora.
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Just use distrobox as long as it doesn't hinder much the program's functionality or your convenience.
It's Debian. Let us know when you have your first real issues with it, probably some time in 2037.
Don't be too hopeful, it will probably be the upgrade to Debian 14 in 2030. And the issue will probably be: yes, you need to change the repo and then full-upgrade.
I had some getting it to run on a Chuwi HI8 but the thing is a terrible tablet-PC pretending to be a terrible Android tablet...
I had a fair amount of issues back in the day due to debian having limited support for newer hardware with proprietary drivers. I wouldnt be surprised if that still a thing given Debian's modus operandi.
Debian now prompts users if they want non free drivers in the installer, and the installer it self comes with them so it can boot on platforms that require it, non free drivers and firmware are also in a seperated repository to non-free and enabling them is independent, selecting non free drivers in the installer will enable the non free driver and firmware repository
Good question. It seems like Debian has been speeding up a bit. The software is still a bit older, but it’s not too far behind compared to some other Debian releases. I switched and it’s been rock solid, despite me running a Trixie Backports system.
See my newest comment with the monospaced text.
But yeah, not a real issue, I fixed it in 15 minutes. Apparently it was foolish of me to want Num Lock on the lock screen (Czech keyboard layout uses the number row for diacritics).
Edit: Now I fixed that too. I can easily use numbers in my password now!
You don’t need luck. You chose wisely.
I love Debian. Been using it on my laptop for over a year. Some specific drivers are a little fiddly if you have nvidia graphics but it's not too bad, lots of good info on the debian wiki.
Some specific drivers are a little fiddly if you have nvidia graphics
Nit-picking here but Nvidia drivers for Debian are ridiculously easy to install? Doc page
- Prerequisites
deb http://deb.debian.org/debian/ trixie main contrib non-free non-free-firmware
deb http://security.debian.org/debian-security/ trixie-security contrib non-free main non-free-firmware
sudo apt update
- Install the driver (Trixie)
sudo apt install nvidia-kernel-dkms nvidia-driver
- Have an RTX capable GPU?
sudo apt install libnvoptix1
Edit: For an Nvidia Optimus Laptop just install envycontrol and set your Nvidia GPU as your primary GPU.
sudo envycontrol -s nvidia --force-comp --coolbits 24
Done, easy peasy.
I just wish Debian didn't use apt. Got fuck I hate apt. With a fucking passion. FUCK APT.
But I do love Debian it's always been the most reliable thing ever.
Damn near every distro is fiddly with Nvidia graphics, they're practically a criminal cartel, they give Nouveau 0 support (ok fine, lately a bit, but probably not enough)
same here even though i don't use it much anymore.
for me, it was both the distro that i had used the longest at home due to rock solid stability and it's become a signal to me that the shop i'm considering working in has rock solid people working on it.
i'm going to miss working on debian in a professional capacity and watching it due it's thing in real world production capacities for millions of people at a time.
I hereby grant the application for luck. May your Debian boot and bring joy.
You make it sound religious. Did i join a religion deccades ago and not knowing it?
If we say yes, do you think we can get tax exemptions?
The first rule of the church of tux is to talk about the church of tux 🙏
I use arch btw~not~ ~really~
No luck needed, it'll go fine. You pretty obviously have all the experience you need.
Experience? Yes, but I'm also really clumsy and impatient. Lots of things, hardware and software, broke in my hands because I wasn't careful enough. At least there is no personal data on the system right now that I could erase.
Lots of things, hardware and software, broke in my hands
Some of us call it a talent and make a career out of it...
Just a little warning if you boot both OS from the same drive. Windows update can and will break your bootloader at one point (if not worse, tho that's rare). Keep a Linux live or rescue stick around in case something breaks.
Yeah, I know this, what a pain... I eventually had to install rEFInd on one of the PCs with dual boot.
If it’s 10 year old hardware, you should be fine.
I’ve only had problems in Debian with brand new hardware where I have to use the backport branch to get drivers (like for wifi.)
Though mainly I use Ubuntu, where I would not have that problem. Not sure why you switched from mint.
I tried Mint on my old MacBook pro and it was really slow, impossible to scroll through a website slow. I then installed Ubuntu and had a wonderful experience
I just made the switch from Win 10 to Bazzite Linux some two weeks ago. It worked so great that I should have done it a long time ago.
This shouldn't be a thing of luck, if you are prepared.
No, I'm absolutely not. What desktop environment should I choose? KDE Plasma is tempting - it would be nice to use it before I install it with Arch on my main system - but I don't need the cutting edge or much personalization. I know XFCE best but GNOME is default... GNOME's big launcher looks great for the TV but it's also more resource-hungry and less customizable...
I guess I'll go with the familiar Windows-style XFCE and maybe add big remote-friendly icons later when I configure an IR receiver.
What desktop environment should I choose
That's the beauty .... You can change any time you want (sudo tasksel) withjout losing your data. or install all of them and choose one each time you login
I recently helped a friend install Debian via sms, it was surprisingly easy, and she had never tried installing Linux before. When installing on a laptop I'd recommend using cable instead of wifi, and then setup wifi when the system is up and running.
Best of luck
Gee! How long did it take to transfer the iso via sms? Did you have to uuencode it?
Nah, he Base4017’d it. That’s Base64 plus all the emojis. It’s actually quite efficient.
🤣 🤣 🤣
Mint is solid, if you use it and it works for you why change? Do you need to bother with windows? What do you use that can't be done on Linux I wonder? Perhaps work out how to set a VM and try out Debian and even windows in a test sandbox so you're comfortable with the processes before taking the plunge. Check out KVM, QEMU, and Virt-Manager.
I have worked with VMs before and still use an XP one sometimes. But modern Windows in a VM on an old laptop with 4 GB of RAM? I'll pass...