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China will ban retractable car handles beginning Jan. 1, 2027

Under the proposed rules, vehicles weighing less than 3.5 tons must be equipped with interior and exterior car door handles that include a mechanical emergency opening function. The requirement is intended to ensure doors can be opened during power failures or after collisions.

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[–] Denalduh@lemmy.world 4 points 6 hours ago

Our new Equinox EV has the retractable handles, but you can always push in on the pivot side to reveal the handle. This allows the doors to open normally when the handle can't be retracted.

[–] BigDanishGuy@sh.itjust.works 3 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago)

The Chinese? The goddanm Chinese figured this out first? This is a new low for the state of regulations in the EU.

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[–] belated_frog_pants@beehaw.org 4 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago)

God someone should ban that shit, i fucking hate how janky handles are now. Why make something so much worse for no benefit???

[–] davidagain@lemmy.world 3 points 10 hours ago

Well done China. Thank you for the influence this will have on car makers and regulators worldwide.

[–] Sharkticon@lemmy.zip 23 points 21 hours ago (2 children)

It's weird seeing a government regulate something for the betterment of society and its citizens. I didn't know that happened anymore.

[–] monad@anarchist.nexus -2 points 7 hours ago

Communist China Gov. also banned Human Rights Layers! 

Wake-up! 

[–] hanrahan@feddit.online 2 points 12 hours ago

Are you a tankie /s

[–] underisk@lemmy.ml 34 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Why are these even a thing to begin with? Do they offer any material benefit over a regular mechanical handle? It seems like a pretty substantial failure point to introduce for something purely aesthetic.

[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 4 points 11 hours ago

because elon musk , tesla started doing it, he said something along the lines it doesnt look cool.

[–] TheRealKuni@piefed.social 22 points 1 day ago (3 children)

I’ve heard it’s about aerodynamics but I can’t imagine either a divot for the underside of the handle or even a handle sticking out entirely makes THAT much range difference.

[–] JillyB@beehaw.org 4 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

Door handles can be a big aero disruptor. But there are door handles that are more aerodynamic. I think Aston Martin (used to?) use one that is flush until you press the front with your thumb. Then the handle pivots out so you can pull it. That would give the same benefits as a retracting door handle.

[–] burble@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 13 hours ago

That sounds like Tesla door handles?

[–] HubertManne@piefed.social 4 points 21 hours ago (2 children)

that may be it. The aptera does not have one at all and uses a knock to open thing and its main thing and the thing they are super obsesive with is aerodynamics.

[–] burble@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

Soooo that would also be against this rule. As would all the capacitive touch ones.

[–] HubertManne@piefed.social 1 points 3 hours ago

I would think. it requires a physical one.

[–] TheRealKuni@piefed.social 4 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

What a weird, niche, awesome car.

[–] HubertManne@piefed.social 4 points 18 hours ago

its history is crazy to. Way back when the guys doing aptera tried to do it as a super fuel efficient gas car. It did not go forward but people got their kickstarter money back which was one thing that made me more excited about the guys in this new one. Funny thing is I think hybrid and electric was kinda one reason it did not go originally. Here is the funny part though. As part of winding down the original they sold the patents to make what they needed to be fair to everyone and went sorta their seperate ways. Its years later and electric cars are a real and working thing, solar panels are way better/cheaper, and they are together and they are like. This would be great for a super electric car. It could run on its own solar power. So they are like. What did places ever do with the patents. They looked them up and found they could buy them back real cheap and whelp. that is how this new itteration came to be.

[–] Lemmyoutofhere@lemmy.ca 10 points 1 day ago

Ya, it doesn’t. It’s purely a marketing gimmick.

Sounds sensible to me.

[–] Steve@communick.news 17 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Why the limit of 3.5 tons?

[–] Natanael@infosec.pub 2 points 5 hours ago

Separate regulations for different vehicle classes

[–] schizoidman@lemmy.zip 29 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

I guess vehicles above that weight aren't considers 'cars'

In Singapore you can only drive a vehicles of 3,000KG or less with a car driving licence.

I suppose it's similar in China

[–] altkey@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 1 day ago

I believe it could've come from the same root, probably USSR. Russia too has a 3,5 tons line to divide between driving licenses' tiers.

[–] wagesj45@fedia.io 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Not sure why this would be a ban as long as they can be manually manipulated while "closed". Push/pop kinda deal.

[–] DarkSirrush@piefed.ca 6 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

Yeah, thats the problem. Several car makers can't be manually manipulated when closed, especially when the battery is disconnected.

[–] wagesj45@fedia.io 1 points 5 hours ago

Right, which is why I'm surprised the solution is posited as "no more recessed door handles" rather than "failsafe mechanical mechanism". Either something is missing here, there was a failure of imagination from the author, or it was disingenuous framing.