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[–] skozzii@lemmy.ca 40 points 2 days ago

Musk makes a product so shitty even China is like, hold up.

[–] drmoose@lemmy.world 46 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Good, it's such an incredibly stupid design. Literally no one was bothered by a slight handle for better UX.

[–] buzz86us@lemmy.world 6 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Why not have those plastic handles on the sides of the doors that don't stick out? They could even have covers for them.

[–] realitista@lemmus.org 50 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Next can we outlaw touchscreens? I'm guessing they are far more dangerous in the end.

[–] Quill7513@slrpnk.net 41 points 3 days ago (1 children)

i think often about that GM and Volvo paid Virginia Tech a lot of money to help them design a safe touchscreen infotainment center and after years of research the researchers basically reached the conclusion "there's no safe way to put a touchscreen in a car" and now we all have touchscreens in our cars

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[–] Flipper@feddit.org 18 points 2 days ago (1 children)

We wouldn't even need to ban them outright. Just ban the usage for important things like windscreenwipers and climate control.

VW thankfully is making the move backwards on their own.

[–] dai@lemmy.world 7 points 2 days ago

“From the ID 2all onwards, we will have physical buttons for the five most important functions – the volume, the heating on each side of the car, the fans and the hazard light – below the screen,” 

Climate controls are one but sure, five most important functions. Honestly rip out the touch screen, implement buttons just as they had been previously then add the display; preferably with a decent HID as Mazda have done. 

I'm still driving a mk6 golf and really can't imagine not having easy access to those features. 

[–] Jackusflackus@lemmy.world 229 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (2 children)

As they should, stupid over complicated and absolutely failure ridden unnecessary design. kinda like this poorly worded statement

[–] DaddleDew@lemmy.world 69 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Musk nearly bankrupted Tesla when he insisted that the door handles must be flush after stealing the company from its original founders.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 58 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (17 children)

I mean, "stealing" is a strong word. Elon bought them out, and they're both enjoying a net worth in the hundreds of million.

What's more disturbing about Elon's tenure as head of the company is how social media manipulation, insider trading, and blatant SEC violations can pump a company's valuation into the stratosphere.

Marc Tarpenning and Martin Eberhard both continued to contribute advances in engineering that far exceeded the Tesla project. But they'll never have the kind of easy credit Elon secured through politics and media manipulation. So don't expect to see them included among the ranks of "billionaire" any time soon.

[–] DaddleDew@lemmy.world 33 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (7 children)

"Bought them out" is a weak word too though. He placed loyal people on the board and had them vote to give him control of the company.

And now he has been having them vote to give him absurd unseen before "salaries"

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[–] hopesdead@startrek.website 27 points 3 days ago

It’s already fucked up that he legally gets to call himself a co-founder for simply being on the board.

[–] dantheclamman@lemmy.world 28 points 3 days ago

I have long observed that moving parts, particularly involving motors, are destined to give me grief as a car ages. The difference is that little motorized interior luxuries aren't going to prevent people from pulling my unconscious body out of a burning wreck, while these door handles have for dozens of people

[–] NutWrench@lemmy.world 25 points 2 days ago

When even China has to ban your product due to safety concerns, you've probably made some seriously bad design choices somewhere along the line.

[–] xeekei@lemmy.zip 133 points 3 days ago (2 children)
[–] Quazatron@lemmy.world 76 points 3 days ago (6 children)

Should not have allowed them in the first place.

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[–] zipzoopaboop@lemmynsfw.com 30 points 3 days ago (4 children)

Bright headlights and combined brake/turn signals too please

[–] sefra1@lemmy.zip 23 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (2 children)

Don't get me started on that, stupid direct led brakes lights should be outright illegal. They literally blind every following car behind, specially if the windshield is dirty or foggy.

How those damn things got approved in the first place is ~~beyond my understanding~~ corruption.

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[–] SocialMediaRefugee@lemmy.world 41 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Can China ban retina burning headlights, rear facing floodlights and aftermarket exhausts now?

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[–] magic_smoke@lemmy.blahaj.zone 51 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (16 children)

Is it really that hard to make one of those recessed handles with a mechanical linkage instead of an electric one?

Seems like the real issue is the electric door latch itself, not the style of handle.

[–] Bluewing@lemmy.world 18 points 3 days ago

The handles themselves freeze down and won't pop up to allow someone to actually open the door. Freezing rain and sleet and prevent even traditional style handles are known to freeze up and stop working.

[–] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 46 points 3 days ago (6 children)

Tesla whined about it citing all the crap they’d have to work around in their design in order to make a normal mechanical linkage. Funny how no other upper tier manufacturer has trouble with all the power windows and window power pre-offsetting for interference fits. They manage to have mechanical linkages.

[–] magic_smoke@lemmy.blahaj.zone 41 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

Yeah I'm not shocked the major car company with the least amount of experience in mechanical engineering had that issue.

Give that to a team of 90's Honda engineers and they'd have it done by lunch with a price tag a 1/3rd of the Tesla mechanism.

[–] BanMe@lemmy.world 14 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Oh those Honda engineers would have laughed and laughed. "Aluminum chassis and plastic body support?!" I can hear them say through hysterics.

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[–] GenosseFlosse@feddit.org 23 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Why do need this in the first place? So a 2 ton SUV can be 0.0058% more aerodynamic?

[–] dantheclamman@lemmy.world 19 points 3 days ago

These recessed handles usually have some sort of fallback. For me, I don't want rescuers to have a single second of uncertainty of how to open my car. They should be able to quickly yank the door open, not fumble for some recessed/hidden button. Every second counts.

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[–] oftenawake@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Fuck Musk and Fuck Swasticars!

There's no excuse left for driving one except having bought it before this year.

Buying Tesla is funding fascism and corruption. All Musk companies need breaking up!

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[–] gustofwind@lemmy.world 28 points 3 days ago (4 children)

Must be nice having a functional government

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 29 points 3 days ago (3 children)

Americans are going to mandate retractable handles in response

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[–] phar@lemmy.world 18 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I don't think China or the US would be called nice in this regard.

[–] gustofwind@lemmy.world 14 points 3 days ago (15 children)

Well, the US is very nice to corporations which is why they’re often left to self regulate, are regulated by former industry insiders, or are barely regulated through fines and settlements

So yeah I suppose in this regard China is not being nice but being nice doesn’t effectively regulate corporations. This is in fact a good example of a functional government doing its job

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[–] DylanMc6@lemmy.ml 5 points 2 days ago
[–] HumanOnEarth@lemmy.ca 4 points 2 days ago

More great news fot Tesla stock!

[–] Resonosity@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 2 days ago

Common China W

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