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[–] b_tr3e@feddit.org 64 points 2 months ago (3 children)

Just in case: VAPING, SMOKING OR BASING AMPHETAMINE IS LIKELY TO KILL YOU!
Despite the ideas of some "experts" speed is not the same as meth and heating and inhaling speed will at best give you the bends.

[–] dgdft@lemmy.world 27 points 2 months ago

Sounds like you don’t want the public knowing about the Shadow People who are constantly watching us, huh?

[–] SatansMaggotyCumFart@piefed.world 17 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] b_tr3e@feddit.org 19 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I don't recall the equations -it was years ago that I've read about it- but IIRC it sets free NO-, so it's not carbon but nitrogen that is to blame. I am quite sure you'll find something about diver's disease with the correct chemistry at Wikipedia if you're interested in the details.

[–] dejected_warp_core@lemmy.world 7 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I know a handful of oddball pharma trivia facts, but that's a new one on me. It's just wild that a drug could even do that.

[–] deranger@sh.itjust.works 17 points 2 months ago (2 children)

That’s because it doesn’t do any of that.

[–] OhStopYellingAtMe@lemmy.world 5 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I read somewhere that smoking it makes you see the shadow people who are constantly watching us.

[–] naeap@sopuli.xyz 3 points 2 months ago

Shadow people usually show up with sleep deprivation - speed obviously helps to keep you awake until this point (and makes you a bit psychotic, which invites those people)

[–] texture@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago
[–] texture@lemmy.world 8 points 2 months ago

you got any sources on any of this? what do you mean by "speed" anyway?

[–] null@piefed.nullspace.lol 63 points 2 months ago

It does go crazy though

[–] peopleproblems@lemmy.world 38 points 2 months ago (2 children)

That's a really good way to waste a lot of Adderall.

Bioavailability of Adderall when introduced into the lungs is like <10%.

Gastric absorbtion is 90%. Doesn't take a genius to know that maybe you shouldn't smoke something that doesn't get absorbed well that way.

[–] SkunkWorkz@lemmy.world 11 points 2 months ago (1 children)

So boofing it is the way to go?

[–] peopleproblems@lemmy.world 10 points 2 months ago

Uh

No. It's actually absorbed by the stomach, and requires the gastric acid to do it. Stomach acid is usually rendered neutral in the large intestine. I would suspect it would be the same as inhaling it, but I have no clue.

Plus, while Adderall would damage your lungs, I'm pretty sure boofing it is a good way to lose your lower intestines.

[–] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

And loading it directly into the bloodstream by lungs is a bad idea.

[–] peopleproblems@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

Other than weakening lung tissue and damaging blood vessels, what else would it do? It wouldn't be in your system long enough to metabolize into the psychoactive or CNS stimulating product.

[–] toomanypancakes@piefed.world 30 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Regular reminder to not do meth, kids. Not even once.

[–] Wren@lemmy.today 27 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I'll die of excitement while mowing the neighbour's lawn with scissors.

[–] Jerkface@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago

"Look, that one blade is a little shorter than the rest."

[–] FiniteBanjo@feddit.online 20 points 2 months ago (1 children)

So while Adderall is an Amphetamine, more specifically it's multiple amphetamine salts packed into one container, and in high doses can cause psychosis, the major difference is that Methamphetamine's Methyl chain at the attachment point makes it heavily lipophilic causing it to dissolve into body fats, causing its tooth-decay side effect and also making it easier to pass through the blood-brain barrier.

[–] deranger@sh.itjust.works 14 points 2 months ago (1 children)

It’s slightly more lipophilic, not heavily so. The main draw of meth from a pharmacodynamic perspective is that it slows enzymatic degradation (you’re high longer). On a mg for mg basis dextroamphetamine is actually stronger than meth.

Tooth decay is caused by dry mouth and poor hygiene. The added methyl group doesn’t affect this aspect.

[–] FiniteBanjo@feddit.online 0 points 2 months ago

I'm no expert on illicit substances, but teeth are a bone matrix FILLED with lipids, that's theorized to be why certain bacteria target and eat away at the teeth in the first place while other common bacteria simply produce acids which demineralize teeth as a side effect, and the Methyl compounds will bond directly to the teeth creating a dental biofilm in this case accelerating decay, this property is used by some dental coatings in order to apply permanent ceramic fixtures to teeth with methyl methacrylate and the property is also the major cause of stains on teeth caused by smoking.

Adderall also causes dry mouth but is not associated with the same level or severity of tooth decay.

This would probably actually make for a great area of research on if different "types" of meth like methoxy, methyl, halogen, or sulfur have different severities on dental health and if there is not then it would immediately prove me wrong, but I personally could not find any such study.

[–] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 18 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Caffeine + sertraline + thc = maximum productivity

[–] FiniteBanjo@feddit.online 13 points 2 months ago (3 children)

Imagine a person taking so many drugs that you end up anxious, tired, and depressed like they were before taking the drugs.

[–] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 8 points 2 months ago

This combination plus a lean diet and plenty of physical exercise got me in the best shape of my life.

[–] null@piefed.nullspace.lol 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Like they're on so many drugs that I get a contact hangover?

[–] X@piefed.world 2 points 2 months ago

That wont happen as long as you stay outside the 5 km exclusion zone.

[–] too_high_for_this@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Imagine judging a complete stranger, based on a throwaway comment, over the entirely subjective effects of drugs.

[–] FiniteBanjo@feddit.online 1 points 2 months ago

I didn't comment on his drug combination, I commented about a hypothetical new drug combination.

[–] python@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago

Man Sertraline used to fuck me up pretty bad. Like crying every day and not doing anything else. My doctor still insisted on dosing me up to 150mg. Quitting it was awful too, I was nauseous for a week straight.
Nowadays I'm much better on Adderall and a Beta Blocker to keep my heart rate in check

[–] minamoog@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago

crazy how the "adderall is meth" stigma still exists