I like how Visa/Master Card are shutting "indecent" games down, but have no fucking issues with twitter generating CSAM.
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Don't be mean. I promise to do my best to judge that fairly.
It's never an issue when the criminal is rich.
It's a crime if you're poor and a fine if you're rich and all'at.
Here in Czechia you can pay for online transactions with instant direct bank transfer, so cards are not really needed. This is often used for direct transfers between individuals where one generates a QR code on his phone and the other scans it.
Also if for some reason you really have to use cash, PaysafeCards are still an option.
Just grab one from a nearest vendor and the code on the reciept is tied to a balance starting with the amount on the card.
That's because Europe has SEPA, which are used in the EU.
Europeans mind can't comprehend the issues of american banks.
They are so bad, it doesn't make any sense.
in Poland we have something similar! we have BLIK and it generates a code for you that the other person taps into their terminal/you tap into an online purchase window, then it tells you to confirm again in the app and there you go, paid
there's also BLIK phone transfers, you just need the other person's phone number and (provided they have their bank linked to their phone number ofc) you can send money to their account that way
i haven't paid attention to it recently but when this was being introduced they also added a cheeky "this transaction only took you 30s ;)" at the end lol
I live in a country where it has become in a sense illegal not to be listed at an address. If you are not listed at an address, the government flags you as a missing person. If that happens, the banks lock you out of government ID, which is necessary to do basically any type of online banking, and if you have any funds behind an electronic ID wall, you won't be able to access them.
Wtf is the point of all that? Sounds like it just makes the life of homeless people harder for no reason
That is the point. You must either be a land owner or pay rent to one.
Which country?
Lots of European countries have mandatory registration. It makes administration a lot easier.
Recently visited a country where cash is very much preferred and it was such a breath of fresh air. I thought it would be annoying to have to keep up with the spare change and what not but it was fine and actually felt pretty good. I've since started using cash a lot more at home.
I recently had a trip to Japan and had more mixed opinions about it. Mainly because they have a large variety of coins and oh boy do you end up with a lot of them.
Coinage is the single reason why I'm tipped over the edge to prefer card. I HATE dealing with change.
I wish there was a card that was closer to cash where the money is stored on the physical card not offsite but that seems like a nightmare in itself... Idk
Well this means that there is still a payment provider doing the barcode system. This payment provider could still block certain vendors. It works excellently to protect the privacy of the buyer, though.
I still don't know why USians don't simply use bank transfers. Uses neither cash nor credit cards, perfectly easy.
Our banks make it a pain in the ass and I don't know any stores that would accept it
we have zero say in what payment methods are available to us
companies and banks decide and we're just their little bitches
I mean, we could all decide to not use credit cards and Apple Pay... But that's too inconvenient. Oh, well, I guess we'll continue being little bitches.
(Just got back from a trip to a cash-heavy country. It's possible.)
Change begins with oneself.
Bank transfers here take 3 days typically. And that's business days, so add another one if it's after 4:30 pm, also Saturday, Sunday, and holidays don't count.
That's what it was like here not so long ago. It can occasionally still take that long if you're sending money to another bank. Same for weekends and holidays. We still seem to get by just fine?
Banks and other financial institutions invest our money during the float (the period of time between deposit and the money showing up in the account).
recently found out most banks in the US are not government owned and charge transfer fees for each transfer (up to $40ish for wells fargo)
Because the US still does not have instant, or near instant bank transfers. ACH bank transfers cost money per transaction, on the order of 0.30-0.50 per transaction, and can much higher for larger transactions.
The US is just incredibly, and uniquely behind when it becomes to accessible payments. This is the reason why "FinTech" such as Cash app, PayPal, and Venmo, in addition to credit cards, are popular - they literally just don't have the infrastructure in place for you to pay back a friend after they pay for a meal.
Every other developed, and even some developing countries, have had fee free instant payments, for the better half of a decade. The UK/Hong Kong have Faster Payment System (FPS). Europe has SEPA, and most countries mandate that transfers cannot charge fees. Australia has Osko. India has Immediate Payments Service.
I read horror stories of USians paying rent by writing cheques or mailing cash to avoid bank transfer fees and subsequently stressing out about fraud. This is just insane to everyone else, who just pays via instant bank transfers.
Or, there could just be an instant payment thing that's run by the federal bank. Brazil created Pix, which is essentially an instant payment processor that makes transferring money piss easy, and it works 24/7 regardless of date and the money arrives in less than five seconds. It's managed by the Central Bank too, and every bank that operates in the country is connected to it.
I wonder where that puritan far right "women's rights" advocacy group is now that Twitter is generating CSAM and non consensual AI generated material, or maybe the purpose was always to punch down on independent artists.
They are actively pushing against every attempt to stop Twitter and it's owner Mask producing child pornography and non-consentually showing it to the users. That's where they are right now.
We now have the technological means to make online payments better in many ways for both customers and vendors. We just need to move away from one of the biggest American exports, middlemen.
Visa/MasterCard is a tax in every transaction. You might not see it but it is there.
I consulted for a luxury brand on e-commerce for a bit and I was surprised how important credit card splitting was to their American business.
Like, people splitting a purchase across multiple cards because they were so close to the max for each.
I questioned how much time we were spending on it but they assured me it was a common use case.
No. In Sweden, 99% of all payments are cahsless. Most stores don't even take cash anymore.
We still have plenty of (digital) options for payment in addition to Visa/Mastercard.
In my view, it's actually the opposite. The more digital paymenst are used, the higher the incentive to create a competing payment solution. Swish and Klarna are taking over more and more here.
Wow, I had no idea you could do that in Japan, and the idea never crossed my mind.
That's a brilliant solution to online payments.
This is still a digital transaction that has to go through a third party. Whoever runs this kind of barcode kiosk system would still wield the exact same kind of power that Mastercard and Visa do.
Of course, but the more payment providers there are the less power each has.
Makes me wonder: how are they not have the same stronghold in Europe? They're also everywhere there as well.
They do, but people also do a lot of bank transfers. Which is essentially a cash payment. But if you don't have a local bank account and app, or the Wise app, then credit cards work just fine most places.
Albania is the only place I've seen that has zero trust in anything but cash, but that's because their socialist era was so restrictive that after that regime fell, people were wholly unable to understand how basic things like banks or economics works. A single pyramid scheme basically crashed the government in 1996-97. It's a fascinating story about how much learning a society has to do to change from an oppressive regime to something else.
I wish I could pay in cash for online purchases from Amazon. Amazon has such a privacy nightmare that I cannot even hide or delete my purchase history. I know deleting the history doesn't remove the trait or nullify anything, but the fact that it remains visible on your account is stupid. There are purchases that I dont want anyone looking at my account to know and sometimes I just like clearing it. I don't care for shit I bought back in 2018 anymore.
I nearly universally refuse to use a debit card and use a credit card for everything and then pay it off every month. The system is broken, but this is the best use of the system.