Walking some home with their consent (or consent of their guardian) is not a crime.
Following someone home is stalking.
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Walking some home with their consent (or consent of their guardian) is not a crime.
Following someone home is stalking.
When it's related to groceries it's actually called a steak-out.
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This is a perfect example of why privacy and security in smartphones is so incredibly important. Delivering food to your neighbors is not illegal and you shouldn't be followed because you put a Mexican person's address into Google Maps or your notes. Absolute insanity.
This comment of the lady taking the picture really reminds me of the early Nazi era regime where people were hunting for undocumented Jews. This makes me incredibly sad to see history is repeating itself yet again.
There are still WWII veterans alive that fought the Nazis in Germany just to watch it repeat itself in their own fucking country.
I've actually started keeping screenshots of people I know who are supportive of ICE, in part so I have my own little database of people who I know can't be trusted, and so that I can hopefully publish them later when these same people try to pretend they didn't support this.
I can't even begin to imagine the violence I would be inspired to visit on someone who pulled that on me or someone I know. Like if smug bitch thinks she just "Got me", and I now have nothing to lose, and she's not the armed Gestapo, and that's a brick lying on the ground....
Paper is the new privacy measure
Always has been.
Protip: for anyone seeking to use typewriters to further circumvent surveillance, please know that the ribbon is a complete log of every keystroke. Also, the pressure your pen makes on paper can be recovered from soft-ish surfaces and sheets underneath it. Act accordingly.
We have messaging apps that are secure and can timed autodelete by text “for everyone”.
And yet people keep on using Facebook Messenger.
And your printer puts microscopic marks that can be traced back to the specific one.
Gestapo/Stasi vibes all over.
During Gestapo and Stasi times most informants did their best to remain anonymous because no one likes snitches. Openly following someone and bragging about it is sociopathic even by nazi and Stalinist standards.
Oh, they just didn’t realize that they are easy targets themselves. Early days are always like this.
This is genuinely unsettling. Whatever people’s views are, no one should feel afraid just trying to help a neighbor or go about daily life. Empathy and basic humanity shouldn’t be controversial.
Partially related: Grocery store apps "tailoring" the price of groceries to the individual? Oh fuck you motherfuckers, cash for me from now on.
"We're sorry, this location is no longer accepting cash."
in some states/cities that's illegal.
Maybe I'm too stupid to understand this but how exactly would ICE know which white person to follow? Even if 1% (ridiculously high) of white people were doing this, they would still have to filter them out of the other 99% of white people.
Why would you need to use GPS to deliver food to a house that your friend lives in? How would a piece of paper help you find your "friend's house" that you don't know without the GPS? Why does your friend not just use a grocery delivery service?
To me this story sounds completely far fetched.
I like your user name for this comment. It’s a fair assessment though. The problem is we would not have had street executions on our bingo cards for the last 6 mos either. Street executions without the Floyd reactivity even. Or, at least, the utter lack of reporting on it.
Per MN posts on Substack, ICE is camping the street where they killed the nurse. My guess, to prevent a show of support with a memento memorial pileup of items and such.
For this, it’s within the realm of possibility, and given how little is being reported on some benefit of the doubt will be extended. Shit is falling off the rails over here. There’s no security. No real governance. Just a lot of poor people with no health insurance moving on inertia and denial while a small amount of others try to push back from the streets. Meanwhile, 1/3 of us cheer for or make excuses for it.
How are we supposed to live side by side with these people?
Unless those on the attacking side (MAGA) decide they don't want to murder more of us, I'm not sure we can. The first civil war was incredibly bloody and tensions between the sides never settled down fully. We are in this situation partly because there is no way to have a compromise with people that believe some of our society's members aren't human. The white supremacist view of slave owners and supporters of slavery never went away, it needs to be cut out from the root.
So important to document all these tactics and counter-tactics. It will also come to parts of Europe soon. Sweden has under the current government implemented prisons for children and forced government employees to report suspected undocumented children and families. And the far-right has not even officially been included in the government yet. We probably have to prepare here too.
In France we have people on far-right billionaire-funded yet widely popular TV channel openly advocating for the adoption of ICE tactics.
We’ve also already got special administrative prisons with inhumane conditions for undocumented migrants for a while. Likewise, on paper, the far-right has never participated in any government since 1945.
Let’s not forget that the EU has delegated arbitrary arrest and violent policing of migrants to other states for quite a while now.
Dark times ahead, we need to fight now, but, indeed, also prepare for a worsening of the situation.
Little tip, put the duress pin as your birth date. Because that's the first thing that a law enforcement officer might try. Then the phone deletes itself and they can't claim that you did it because they were the ones to enter it, unprompted.
How do i configure a duress pin on android? Is it a native feature or do i need an app? Using lineage os btw
Ideally it should silently delete just some pre-selected things. If we are coerced into giving the pin away, then the phone resetting itself would invite some retaliation. If it just silently deletes the data of a notes app, it would probably go unnoticed.
How do i configure a duress pin on android? Is it a native feature or do i need an app? Using lineage os btw
Duress PIN is a native feature of GrapheneOS. It is one of many privacy friendly features in GrapheneOS.
When I think about how Google could relatively inexpensively back-port those features into Android, and how they have not done so... it makes me feel uncomfortable with how long I trusted Google with most of my digital identity.
Edit: I'm not aware of another good way to set a duress pin. When I search for "Android duress pin" all I find, at the moment, are links to GrapheneOS.
I fucking loathe conservatives. They are proud Nazis but scoff at the use of the term. But it's the only term that really describes them. Fucking Nazis.
This is so sad. But the upside is there are apparently enough people that don't want others kidnapped they are delivering groceries and are willing to eat paper if (illegally) stopped by ICE. Y'all should be celebrated forever...
I think I might've seen this somewhere. Hope you got this over there. Greetings from Germany.

LIterally 1939
There are credible reports from ICE observers in cars being lead to their own houses. To be more clear, ICE is cars being observed as is one's constitutionally protected right, are driving to the homes of the cars observing them. This is intended to let the observers know that ICE knows who they are.
It does seem like a bad idea to let the general public determine a location for ICE to drive to in a way that will highlight which car is full of ICE agents, but that is just me.
Now I'm fairly sleep deprived at the moment so it could just be me, but I can't parse your first paragraph at all, especially the second sentence.
A couple key typos i think
I think hes saying ice notices a civilain tailing them, pulls their info, then drives to the tail's adress, with the civilian observer still following, letting them know that the agents know who they are and can get to them any time, as a threat.
Paragraph 2 is pointing out this is a bad strategy for ice, as it allows opposition to lead ice into an ambush/ further identify cars:
Drive around and start tailing suspect cars- when they start going towards your home, mark them as confirmed undercover ICE vehicles,
OR have people waiting at the vehicles' registered address to ambush them- could be pretty effective once people start shifting to violent resistance mode- either steal a car from someone out of town and use their car and property to set the trap, or your own old home if youre already marked and had to go underground.
Weak little fucking cowards hiding behind the state to feel empowered for their gold stars. Little rat class traitors like that deserve open hostility every second of their lives.
Germany 1930s. We all know the playbook.
I keep a small notepad and pen to write things down if I see something interesting or if I need to note something. Much more private than taking a photo or writing it on my phone 's notepad software.
That last Nazi collaborator . . . I am not an angry or violent person, but oh boy I cannot be held responsible for how I might react.
Start delivering grocceries to people ICE isn't targeting. Flood the streets with deliveries so its impossible for them to track everyone doing it.
This is very true. Minneapolis suburb here. They are following even old ladies back to their homes 30 min away.