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[–] saucerwizard@awful.systems 2 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

OT: vehicle shopping is such a clusterfuck these days jfc. Do not recommend. Also car salesmen are on par with rationalists, I swear to god.

[–] mirrorwitch@awful.systems 1 points 30 minutes ago

the last time I drove a car was in 2015 or so, and back then every car I got had no computers in them. I dread the day that I need to have a vehicle again and my friggin car will upload bullshit into the cloud or whatever. the idea of having screens of any kind on a car is repulsive to me

[–] sc_griffith@awful.systems 4 points 3 hours ago

new odium symposium episode. this one is a lot lighter than the previous two. we went back and looked at joseph swetnam, the guy the word misogyny was coined to describe, and how he got relentlessly dunked on by his peers.

https://www.patreon.com/posts/9-first-149546072, or on any platform

[–] BlueMonday1984@awful.systems 4 points 4 hours ago

Found another website doing a good job keeping eye on the slop machines and their promoters: The AI Dirty List.

It also lists those who have fought against the bullshit fountains as well.

[–] rook@awful.systems 8 points 9 hours ago (2 children)

Bit early to celebrate, but every bit of grit in the wheels of the llm machine is welcome: Microsoft is walking back Windows 11’s AI overload — scaling down Copilot and rethinking Recall in a major shift

  • recall might be rethought, again
  • copilot integration in the most stupid places (notepad, paint, maybe others) “under review”
  • no new copilot integration with other tools that ship with windows

Still plenty of other ai projects going full steam ahead, but promotion in plenty of tech companies and especially microsoft comes with being associated with a product launch, and if you’re smart what happens after the launch is someone else’s problem. I wouldn’t be surprised to see plenty of this stiff clinging on until it reaches consumers, and then being immediately “scaled back”.

[–] BioMan@awful.systems 1 points 43 minutes ago

Does (deservedly) mercilessly bullying Slopya Nadella actually work?

[–] o7___o7@awful.systems 5 points 6 hours ago

R3call

Buisness plan: daily reminders to Recall the Recall Recall. It's memento mori for CEOs as a service.

[–] gerikson@awful.systems 5 points 11 hours ago
[–] o7___o7@awful.systems 14 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago) (2 children)

Re datacenters in space:

Multiple hackernews insist that SpaceX must have discovered new physics that solves orbital heat management, because otherwise Musk and the stockholders are dumb.

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46862222

Edit: may have gotten the ol URL switcharoo:

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46862170

Current top comment is nice (https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46862435):

it is possible to put 500 to 1000 TW/year of AI satellites into deep space, meaningfully ascend the Kardashev scale and harness a non-trivial percentage of the Sun’s power

We currently make around 1 TW of photovoltaic cells per year, globally. The proposal here is to launch that much to space every 9 hours, complete with attached computers, continuously, from the moon.

edit: Also, this would capture a very trivial percentage of the Sun's power. A few trillionths per year.

[–] V0ldek@awful.systems 11 points 10 hours ago

SpaceX must have discovered new physics that solves orbital heat management, because otherwise Musk and the stockholders are dumb.

Truly a conundrum worthy of the XXI century

[–] gerikson@awful.systems 5 points 9 hours ago

1,604 comments jfc

[–] BlueMonday1984@awful.systems 8 points 1 day ago
[–] nfultz@awful.systems 8 points 1 day ago

Emails Show Even Epstein Thought Crypto Pumps are Unethical | Gizmodo

Crossover month for the epstein extended universe continues...

[–] Architeuthis@awful.systems 13 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The common clay of the new west:

transcriptionTwitter post from @BenjaminDEKR

“OpenClaw is interesting, but will also drain your wallet if you aren't careful. Last night around midnight I loaded my Anthropic API account with $20, then went to bed. When I woke up, my Anthropic balance was $O. Opus was checking "is it daytime yet?" every 30 minutes, paying $0.75 each time to conclude "no, it's still night." Doing literally nothing, OpenClaw spent the entire balance. How? The "Heartbeat" cron job, even though literally the only thing I had going was one silly reminder, ("remind me tomorrow to get milk")”

Continuation of twitter post

“1. Sent ~120,000 tokens of context to Opus 4.5 2. Opus read HEARTBEAT md, thought about reminders 3. Replied "HEARTBEAT_OK" 4. Cost: ~$0.75 per heartbeat (cache writes) The damage:

  • Overnight = ~25+ heartbeats
  • 25 × $0.75 = ~$18.75 just from heartbeats alone
  • Plus regular conversation = ~$20 total The absurdity: Opus was essentially checking "is it daytime yet?" every 30 minutes, paying $0.75 each time to conclude "no, it's still night." The problem is:
  1. Heartbeat uses Opus (most expensive model) for a trivial check
  2. Sends the entire conversation context (~120k tokens) each time
  3. Runs every 30 minutes regardless of whether anything needs checking That's $750 a month if this runs, to occasionally remind me stuff? Yeah, no. Not great.”
[–] rook@awful.systems 11 points 1 day ago (2 children)

There are other posts of the same story that include the original “dev” learning his lesson by using a cheaper model instead of just using a clock.

https://bsky.app/profile/rusty.todayintabs.com/post/3mdrdn3uu7226

There’s also a hackernews which is interesting : https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46854150

Stupid stuff openclaw did for me:

  • Created its own github account, then proceeded to get itself banned (I have no idea what it did, all it said was it created some new repos and opened issues, clearly it must've done a bit more than that to get banned)
  • Signed up for a Gmail account using a pay as you go sim in an old android handset connected with ADB for sms reading, and again proceeded to get itself banned by hammering the crap out of the docs api
  • Used approx $2k worth of Kimi tokens (Thankfully temporarily free on opencode) in the space of approx 48hrs.

Unless you can budget $1k a week, this thing is next to useless. Once these free offers end on models a lot of people will stop using it, it's obscene how many tokens it burns through, like monumentally stupid. A simple single request is over 250k chars every single time. That's not sustainable.

I hadn’t realised quite how terrible the basic offering was. I guess every reinvented-cron-but-unaffordable project pushes the ai companies a little closer to bankruptcy, which is better than nothing, I guess.

[–] froztbyte@awful.systems 7 points 14 hours ago

thankfully temporarily free

god I can’t wait for the subsidies to end

[–] lagrangeinterpolator@awful.systems 11 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

$1000 a week?? Even putting aside literally all of the other issues of AI, it is quite damning that AI cannot even beat humans on cost. AI somehow manages to screw up the one undeniable advantage of software. How do these people delude themselves into thinking that the dogshit they're eating is good?

As a sidenote, I think after the bubble collapses, the people who predict that there will still be some uses for genAI are mostly wrong. In large part, this is because they do not realize just how ruinously expensive it is to run these models, let alone scrape data and train them. Right now, these costs are being subsidized by venture capitalists putting their money into a furnace.

[–] Architeuthis@awful.systems 9 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

How do these people delude themselves into thinking that the dogshit they’re eating is good?

They think it's just that they're early, like they did with bitcoin. Maybe in six monthsthe dogshit will start to taste great, who's to say, and so on and so forth.

Also swengs in the USA often make absurdly more than 1K/week.

[–] lagrangeinterpolator@awful.systems 10 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I guess I can check back in six months to see how they're doing ... wait a minute, they were saying the same things six months ago, weren't they? That's a bummer.

[–] ShakingMyHead@awful.systems 4 points 14 hours ago

Well, sure, but that was six months ago.

[–] o7___o7@awful.systems 6 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Tired: it's required to taste

Wired: it's an acquired taste

[–] gerikson@awful.systems 8 points 1 day ago (2 children)

they're already pivoting to the narrative that "local models will be plenty good enough and it will be trivially affordable to run them"

[–] fullsquare@awful.systems 6 points 9 hours ago

i still think that lots of people damaged by chatbots will stop in their tracks when this vc money burning charade ends, they won't be able to set up it all locally because chatbots brainrotted them even if it was possible in the first place

[–] V0ldek@awful.systems 11 points 21 hours ago

and it will be trivially affordable to run them

ON WHAT HARDWARE BEN, DDR2 SCAVENGED FROM JUNKYARDS???

[–] gerikson@awful.systems 16 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] istewart@awful.systems 10 points 1 day ago

The headline alone is worthy of upvoting. About halfway through the article, the author includes an embedded YouTube video of the Dilberito Flash game. Made me reflect that 20 years ago, they might simply have directly embedded the game itself. And contemplate what the Web might look like if/when external YouTube embedding craps out.

And goddamn:

his former syndicate, publisher, and professional organizations have all declined to pay tribute or even acknowledge his passing.

I didn't realize it was quite that harsh, but so it goes. Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.

[–] gerikson@awful.systems 5 points 1 day ago
[–] froztbyte@awful.systems 13 points 1 day ago (4 children)

once again, the facade of the "whoops, bad company" falls to the ground the moment she needs her hands to fill the pompoms instead of hold up the venetian mask

transcripta quote tweet by @XiWellWisher, reads: "So what's the deal with this ghastly woman again? She's a sort of silicon valley Ghislaine Maxwell?"

the quoted tweet by aella reads: "There's apparently a pro-billionaire protest in SF on the 7th. I might go to this to support! Anybody else going?"

also, real weird account name on that account, wonder if it's a sock

[–] lurker@awful.systems 6 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago)

"pro-billionaire" sorry I just threw up in my mouth a little. Also the billionaires are the ones rushing to create the thing so many rationalists claim is an existential risk, why the fuck would you support them??

[–] istewart@awful.systems 7 points 1 day ago

Yeah, @XiWellWisher going up against Aella on X, The Everything App is well into late-SNL stages of unfunny parody

[–] sansruse@awful.systems 5 points 1 day ago

i don't find that name too strange, it's a post-ironic Online Leftist shibboleth

[–] BlueMonday1984@awful.systems 7 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

In other news, Larry Garfield of GarfieldTech has had enough of the bullshit fountains, and put out a fury-filled sneer in response.

[–] corbin@awful.systems 4 points 3 hours ago

Larry Garfield was ejected from Drupal nearly a decade ago without concrete accusations; at the time, I thought Dries was overreacting, likely because I was in technical disagreement with him, but now I'm more inclined to see Garfield as a misogynist who the community was correct to eject.

I did have a longpost on Lobsters responding to this rant, but here I just want to focus on one thing: Garfield has no solutions. His conclusion is that we should resent people who push or accept AI, and also that we might as well use coding agents:

As I learn how to work with AI coding agents, know that I will be thinking ill of [people who have already shrugged and said "it is what it is"] the entire time.

[–] nfultz@awful.systems 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Don't want to use AI because it's built on copyright infringement and literally destroying the planet? Well, I guess you can't work in software anymore, sorry. It is what it is.

Every time someone like Jeffrey Way says "it is what it is," it makes it so. It is not inevitable just because Sam Altman tells his over-leveraged investors it is so. It becomes inevitable when you, you personally, decide that you just don't want to think about the externalities or put in the work to find better alternatives.

We are making this choice. But really, that means you have already decided for me. And I curse you and the ground you walk on for it. No, I'm not joking or exaggerating. Burn in hell.

10/10 No notes.

[–] YourNetworkIsHaunted@awful.systems 2 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Between this shit and the oncoming tech-inflicted recession, my wife and I are both reskilling out of tech. I'm looking into electrician and she's looking into accounting. Two fields that are, at least in theory, sufficiently motivated by accuracy and reality to be at least somewhat protected from the rise and fall of the confabulatron.

We'll see how it goes, but God if that "Burn in hell" doesn't just hit me right in the soul.

[–] gerikson@awful.systems 3 points 2 hours ago (2 children)

Good luck. There's a lack of trained electricians here in Sweden, which amazes me, it sounds like a decent job for someone with a technical bent and some handiness. Better than plumbing (no disrespect to plumbers, love them, but not the work I want to do)

[–] Enema_Cowboy@dotnet.social 2 points 59 minutes ago

@gerikson @YourNetworkIsHaunted

You have to be a semi-contortionist to be a plumber.

[–] fullsquare@awful.systems 3 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

there's a couple of amusing hells inside that job, you either have to deal with construction crews and contractors, jump between power poles including in cold and rain, wrangle with paperwork for permits for new lines, or fix horrors left by someone before you, it can be also dirty and people-facing

[–] mirrorwitch@awful.systems 7 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (7 children)

The whole federation loves nolto.social, an open source, federated alternative to linkedin! 5 seconds later We regret to inform you the noto.social is vibe-coded

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[–] rook@awful.systems 5 points 1 day ago

Someone has a program to steal people’s entire codebases using malicious ai coding assistant extensions.

https://www.koi.ai/blog/maliciouscorgi-the-cute-looking-ai-extensions-leaking-code-from-1-5-million-developers

(note, it is an ai firm posting this, compete with cutesy slop hero image)

The vscode extensions actually do exactly what they advertise, it’s just that they also take all your code and share it with a third party for whatever purpose.

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