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THE POLICE PROBLEM

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    The police problem is that police are policed by the police. Cops are accountable only to other cops, which is no accountability at all.

    99.9999% of police brutality, corruption, and misconduct is never investigated, never punished, never makes the news, so it's not on this page.

    When cops are caught breaking the law, they're investigated by other cops. Details are kept quiet, the officers' names are withheld from public knowledge, and what info is eventually released is only what police choose to release — often nothing at all.

    When police are fired — which is all too rare — they leave with 'law enforcement experience' and can easily find work in another police department nearby. It's called "Wandering Cops."

    When police testify under oath, they lie so frequently that cops themselves have a joking term for it: "testilying." Yet it's almost unheard of for police to be punished or prosecuted for perjury.

    Cops can and do get away with lawlessness, because cops protect other cops. If they don't, they aren't cops for long.

    The legal doctrine of "qualified immunity" renders police officers invulnerable to lawsuits for almost anything they do. In practice, getting past 'qualified immunity' is so unlikely, it makes headlines when it happens.

    All this is a path to a police state.

    In a free society, police must always be under serious and skeptical public oversight, with non-cops and non-cronies in charge, issuing genuine punishment when warranted.

    Police who break the law must be prosecuted like anyone else, promptly fired if guilty, and barred from ever working in law-enforcement again.

    That's the solution.

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https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/ice-arrests-new-orleans-police-recruit-accused-of-being-in-us-illegally/ar-AA1VBfsD

The New Orleans Police Department responded to the DHS statement with its own statement following the arrest of Temah:

Recent statements regarding Recruit Larry Temah are misleading. The New Orleans Police Department verified Mr. Temah’s employment eligibility through ICE’s E-Verify system prior to hiring and was never notified of any ICE detainer. New Orleans is not a sanctuary city, and NOPD does not control jail operations or detainer decisions, which fall under the Sheriff’s Office. Any claim that NOPD knowingly violated the law is false.
Officer Reese Harper (NOPD Director of Communications)
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[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 60 points 2 days ago (3 children)

And the response of the police department of course is literally "ey, we did our due diligence, it's not our fault if he's illegal" instead of "GET YOUR FUCKING GRUBBY NAZI CLAWS OF MY EMPLOYEES YOU ORANGE FUCK!"

[–] bearboiblake@pawb.social 19 points 2 days ago

ACAB. Any cops that do not act to remove the fascists from power are complicit and should be brought before a people's court for their complicity in crimes against humanity after we have taken back control from the pedophilic elites they serve.

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[–] BigMacHole@sopuli.xyz 28 points 2 days ago

If ONLY there was SOMETHING Cops could do to People who Break the Law! OH WELL! Go abduct ANOTHER Office ICE!

[–] KonalaKoala@lemmy.world 7 points 2 days ago

This probably should have been "New Orleans cop arrests ICE and calling them illegal" to see what the response would be to that.

[–] Commander_Keen@reddthat.com 3 points 1 day ago

What timeline is this. Wtf

[–] boaratio@lemmy.world 10 points 2 days ago
[–] Sam_Bass@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

Those guys really are prize dumbfucks

[–] jballs@sh.itjust.works 74 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Real brave of New Orleans PR putting out a statement defending themselves while completely ignoring their officer. No mention of their confidence in him - or denying that he's a "Criminal illegal alien having no place in our community." Fucking pussies.

[–] Johnmannesca@lemmy.world 17 points 3 days ago

Call the police union and see how little fucks they give

[–] Someonelol@lemmy.dbzer0.com 19 points 3 days ago

It's the South. I'm surprised they said anything about the incident at all.

[–] letsgo2themall@lemmy.world 89 points 3 days ago (1 children)

"ICE arrests black man for existing while black." There, fixed the headline.

[–] Agent641@lemmy.world 21 points 2 days ago (1 children)

"Excuse me sir, do you have any idea how Black you were driving just now?"

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[–] ivanafterall@lemmy.world 9 points 2 days ago

Welp. I guess we're addressing the police problem? We did it?

[–] tlekiteki@lemmy.dbzer0.com 173 points 3 days ago (6 children)

It's a pig-eat-pig world out there.

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[–] modus@lemmy.world 15 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I'm really conflicted on this one.

[–] axexrx@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

An enemy of an enemy is not always a friend.

Ice will just arrest all the POCs and lefties (for a cop) off the local PDs. Then all that will be left are the good-old-boys.

[–] alternategait@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

But never interrupt your enemy while he is making a mistake.

[–] waggz@programming.dev 109 points 3 days ago (4 children)

In case you fail to read the article or statement above, they claim to have used ICEs own system to verify his eligibility. the incompetency has no bounds.

[–] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 127 points 3 days ago (5 children)

It's not incompetency. Incompetency assumes you tried in good faith to do something the right way.

What ICE is doing is just trying to piss people off enough to be scared for their lives. They ARE accomplishing that task.

Did they cross reference this guys identity, and verify he was a citizen? No, but that was never their intent.

They aren't incompetent. They're malicious. Intentionally evil.

[–] Red_October@piefed.world 32 points 3 days ago

They held of the skin color swatch and determined he was in the "Arrest and deport" range. That's all they feel they need.

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[–] UltraGiGaGigantic@lemmy.ml 40 points 3 days ago

ICEs own system

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[–] OldChicoAle@lemmy.world 38 points 3 days ago (4 children)

I understand black communities need black, local cops, but I'll never understand a person of color choosing to be a cop. The institution literally starts as slave catchers.

[–] stylusmobilus@aussie.zone 20 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Kids grow up wanting to make a difference as cops like every other emergency service.

[–] bearboiblake@pawb.social 11 points 2 days ago

No one is immune to copaganda

[–] FE80@lemmy.world 7 points 2 days ago

The institution literally starts as slave catchers.

Let's not forget the strike busting, worker beating historical elements.

[–] Paranoidfactoid@lemmy.world 20 points 3 days ago (16 children)

Policing is a necessary function of civil society. We need good cops and good law enforcement policy. ICE is not that.

[–] Cyberflunk@lemmy.world 54 points 3 days ago

how's your police union helping now? oh wait..

[–] AccoSpoot@lemmynsfw.com 3 points 1 day ago

Capitalism will eat itself.

[–] CheeseNoodle@lemmy.world 53 points 3 days ago (10 children)

You know what, in person I have a hard time being nasty even to people who are acting shitty... but this is the internet and I have a cold too so I'm feeling very detatched so fuck it, I look forward to the first full on shootout between cops and ice, fuck em both.

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Kidnapping a police officer is a bold move. In the interest of compliance with rules, I sincerely hope that this trend of LARPer vs. LEO will not continue until there is a predictable and unfunny consequence.

[–] kingofras@lemmy.world 60 points 3 days ago

This is inception levels of blue lives matter getting canceled out by Black Lives Matter.

Must be sad when you have to stoop down to this level and still can jumpstart that civil war so you can cancel elections.

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