Fuck china so hard. Fuck them.
this post was submitted on 09 Feb 2026
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In before tankies show up to excuse China's behavior as "anti-colonialism" and call everyone a sinophobe.
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Seems like they've started already.
I remember posting about how giving HK back to China would inevitably lead to this outcome.
That was in the early 2000's. So incredibly sad to see it happen exactly as predicted.
It obviously sucks and the outcome was to be expected but what alternative would you propose?
Continued British control would have meant maintaining territory acquired through the Opium Wars which China considered illegitimate. Given China’s position and growing power that likely would have required serious military confrontation. From a post-colonial perspective extending colonial rule also seems hard to justify. What alternative outcome do you think was realistically achievable under those conditions?
But this is China extending its colonial rule. The people don't want this. If they did they wouldn't be trying so hard to crush democracy.
I'm not disagreeing with you and an independent Hong Kong would've been nice but I'm talking about realistic options. Even without any military action Hong Kong was and remains dependent on China and I don't see how it could survive without it.
Independence would have been the best possible outcome, although I agree it was unlikely at best.
Iirc Hong Kong was on a lease to the British gov, which ended in 1999. I don't know if giving it back was an option. Was there another choice the UK could've made?
Hong Kong island and half of Kowloon was ceded to the UK permanently but they decided to give it back in 1997 anyway with the rest (which were leased for 99 years) probably because there is no practical way to only retain half of Hong Kong, there is no wall at the boundary and members of the same family might have lived at both sides, etc.
I knew a Brit that felt they should've kept it with violence, consequences be damned. So there was always the straight-up colonial option.
They also supported Brexit.
Colonialism implies going against the people's will.
There's a few centuries of the British Empire gaming that concept available for reference, but yes. The British consider the undeclared war that resulted in Singapore to be a success.
Reminder this is what China wants to turn Taiwan into
This is not unexpected but incredibly depressing.
So, Apple will stop producing and selling phones in Chaina now right?