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Trigger warning - This Epstein stuff is making me sick... (lemmy.world)
submitted 8 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago) by epicthundercat@lemmy.world to c/aboringdystopia@lemmy.world
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I have spent hours looking through the files and some of the stories are absolutely disgusting. I am having such a hard time because so many citizens don't even know how awful they get and they aren't all even fully released... I am close to feeling like we need pitchforks, torches and shovels if this justice system won't actually do anything... He had a ranch where a witness wrote in saying there are TWO bodies located on the property and they haven't even reported that in the media. I'll link that one below too. It's just so... Horrible. We can't just pretend this doesn't exist... but idk what happens next for the United States and the world. It's not something a country just moves on from.

https://www.justice.gov/epstein/files/DataSet%209/EFTA00078198.pdf

https://www.justice.gov/epstein/files/DataSet%209/EFTA01249507.pdf

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[–] YeahIgotskills2@lemmy.world 1 points 13 minutes ago* (last edited 11 minutes ago)

This is what I don't get when folk online treat girls under 18 of any age as the same thing. A full grown person who's a 30 something adult being with a 17 year old is exploitative, controlling and weird.

Being with an 8 year old is monstrous and, frankly, worthy of the death penalty.

I'm not excusing the first, but do people really see no difference? If you need a legal line in the sand to determine if it's either totally fine or straight to the guillotine then maybe there's something wrong with you.

[–] zr0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

Thanks for the trigger warning. That font really makes me mad.

[–] epicthundercat@lemmy.world 8 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago) (2 children)

I mentioned this. I have dyslexia and some font helps me process faster when I read and unfortunately the less straight and even the better. I also like Open Dyslexic and comic sans and I know most normal people hate them but I am not going to change what works for me to appease internet strangers. I do apologize though if it's annoying.

P.S. I also miss early internet days, when everyone customized things more. The creativity has been sucked out by corporations and government.

[–] zr0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 2 minutes ago

Makes sense and I totally understand you. I am glad you have found a way to help processing words faster and you can do with your life whatever pleases you.

I still hate the font (from a design perspective).

[–] kilgore_trout@feddit.it 1 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

Changing font on Android (AOSP/Google) nowadays is not possible.
You need to root your device for something as simple as this.

[–] epicthundercat@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago) (1 children)

...no? Go to settings, font and download one or change it to a pre-set. Thats all I did.

but https://www.androidauthority.com/how-to-change-android-fonts-32078/

[–] kilgore_trout@feddit.it 1 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago) (2 children)

Android (AOSP/Google)

Vendors like Samsung and some Chinese ones allow for more customisation.

[–] epicthundercat@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago

Oh, you can also use a third party launcher to change the font.

[–] epicthundercat@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago

Hmmm. Iv never owned anything else.

[–] kilgore_trout@feddit.it 2 points 1 hour ago

It’s not something a country just moves on from

It looks like half of the nation does not care, though. We have got used to the extreme, and won't react any more.

[–] Railcar8095@lemmy.world 5 points 1 hour ago

Remember, the FBI found NOTHING to even start looking into an investigation.

Zero reasons.

[–] daannii@lemmy.world 6 points 2 hours ago

Why is this man's faces redacted.

?

Wtf. Show us his face.

[–] pimpampoom@lemmy.zip 10 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Yes it’s terrifying, and so is that font you use

[–] epicthundercat@lemmy.world 4 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

lol I appreciate the font roast. I love my font but I do respect others hate for it.

[–] p03locke@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago) (2 children)

I am close to feeling like we need pitchforks, torches and shovels if this justice system won’t actually do anything

You think we need pitchforks, torches, and shovels? They are armed with guns.

Typing on a forum won't do anything. Shouting real loud won't do anything. Protests won't do anything.

You can't appeal to a horde of psychopaths. Narcissists and sociopaths and psychopaths do not give a shit about you, and they never well. They would happily step over your dead corpse as they climb the Congressional steps to vote that day.

[–] YeahIgotskills2@lemmy.world 1 points 4 minutes ago* (last edited 3 minutes ago)

As an observation, I spent a while in France and I noticed something different about them. They don't put up with shit from their government. If a law is passed that many disagree with, they just don't comply. They refused to accept, for example, vehicle clamping. The government passed it anyway, so they started handling out kits to help people unlock them. People distributed them freely and would actively free any car they saw clamped. They tried to stop them smoking outside cafes. Zero compliance. Maybe it's a hangover from The Revolution, but I found this attitude heartening.

[–] draco_aeneus@mander.xyz 4 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

The pitchforks are a metaphor, obviously.

I'm not sure what point you're getting at. We shouldn't try to do anything, because the guilty are too powerful?

[–] p03locke@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 57 minutes ago* (last edited 56 minutes ago) (2 children)

We shouldn’t try to do anything, because the guilty are too powerful?

No. I'm saying we've had far too many false hope protests that have wasted decades of time and uncountable resources, and the people in power are literally incapable of the empathy involved to produce results. In fact, the latest craze in right-wing doctrine is calling empathy a weakness, just to make sure any vestiges that still exist within their voters is excised out.

If you want to do something, do something more forceful. These people only care about a few things: not losing their fortunes, not losing their freedom, and not dying. If you can make them afraid for one or more of those things, pursue that.

[–] epicthundercat@lemmy.world 2 points 55 minutes ago* (last edited 54 minutes ago)

They view the poor as expendable toys. I wish citizens would get their shit together and clap back but it needs to be en mass.

[–] draco_aeneus@mander.xyz 1 points 35 minutes ago

Your first post read as doomerism to me, but it sounds like quite the opposite actually. We need to organize hard and build something off the back of this horrible state of affairs, right? Maybe something like a general strike until those identified in the documents are behind bars?

[–] chicken@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

It's crazy that we are living in a surveillance state and it isn't even good for bringing the worst people to justice, they know it's happening and let it happen while the monsters chat about it on fucking gmail while the rest of us think about being watched and worry about getting in trouble for every minor little thing.

[–] Lemmyoutofhere@lemmy.ca 14 points 3 hours ago (2 children)

The scary part, is now that Epstein is gone, it’s all just happening somewhere else.

[–] Grimy@lemmy.world 3 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

I imagine he was one of many as well, and most of them probably aren't dumb enough to fill their inbox with evidence.

[–] epicthundercat@lemmy.world 1 points 54 minutes ago

Now we know why there are so many missing kids every year... Messed up

[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 1 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

its not in thier best interest to eliminate ghislaine now, that would just make things worst, whichis why they are keeping her alive.

[–] hector@lemmy.today 1 points 37 minutes ago

Maxwell 100 percent has dirt that would be released on her death, and they can't get to whomever may be holding it. Epstein thought he had that too I'm sure, but Israeli intelligence betrayed him.

[–] Witchfire@lemmy.world 16 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago) (2 children)

I am close to feeling like we need pitchforks, torches and shovels if this justice system won't actually do anything...

We passed that point a while ago

Entirely unrelated, does anyone know how much a cheap woodchipper goes for? It's for landscaping

[–] agamemnonymous@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

Funny enough, a big tree fell on my property a little while back and I wanted to mulch it all for the garden, so I did some research. I was mostly looking at rentals, which were about $500/day for the ones that could handle thick branches.

I wanna say buying was like 10× that for the cheaper ones, but that was for the smaller models more suitable for middle sized branches, but then I would've had to use a chainsaw to break up the thicker chunks.

I wound up cutting it into logs and they're still sitting there, I should probably look into it again and actually get around to it.

[–] Hello_there@fedia.io 15 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

I think your font choice isn't helping. Justice.gov doesn't need a heart on the o.
Edit: I just read the picture and yeah - disgusting. If you want to make change, print out this page and send it to your congressperson

[–] epicthundercat@lemmy.world 16 points 5 hours ago (2 children)

It's the font on my phone in general as it's default. I am dyslexic and some fonts help me process better. Sorry

[–] doctordevice@lemmy.ca 10 points 4 hours ago

It is a bit jarring, but your context is more than enough. Sorry you have to deal with that, no need to apologize to anyone for trying to keep your own world accessible to you.

[–] taiyang@lemmy.world 2 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Honestly I noticed too but I kind of like it. You should have a font that offsets how incredibly depressing everything is.

[–] epicthundercat@lemmy.world 2 points 1 hour ago

I mean, also there is that. The world is pretty depressing. The hearts in the font make me happy. I also feel like the world has lost its creativity and has become so linear. Everything is exactly the same. Sometimes I miss early internet customization. I want to know peoples personalities easier online.

[–] madjo@piefed.social 13 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

Those poor girls...

We need way more than just pitchforks. These monsters need to feel the same type of abuse they inflicted on their victims.

[–] mojofrododojo@lemmy.world 1 points 30 minutes ago

reopen alcatraz, put him and the entire pedo junta on it. sell the rights to netflix, let san-Franciscans throw rotten produce at them from boats. lord of the flies, style, but this more lord of the shitflies. bondi, miller, trump, all the pervy fucks in the epstein emails talking about 9 year olds and coming to the island

the proceeds will help eliminate the national debt and fund therapy for the countless people damaged by their bullshit

[–] Sanctus@anarchist.nexus 36 points 7 hours ago (2 children)

If this brings the western world down then good. Whatever happens, we cannot ignore it. This is what wealth in capitalists nations degenerates into.

[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 3 points 2 hours ago

well some people are resigning due to being named in the files except the people in the USA. i dont put much hope for USA, but other countries might be able to do it.

[–] minorkeys@lemmy.world 1 points 6 hours ago (2 children)

Because non capitalist, non Western nations don't do anything like this, right? Junko Furata, African child soldiers, South Asian sex trafficking rings, Khmer Rouge....need we go on?

[–] Sanctus@anarchist.nexus 9 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

I'm fucken sorry, who has the only known example of a global paedophile ring implicating nearly all of its leaders? This is fucking unprecendented. No need to take it personally unless you are a capitalist.

[–] minorkeys@lemmy.world 1 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago) (2 children)

Most organized crime in every nation practices sex trafficking, rape, prostitution and slavery of one kind or another. From the Yakuza to the Mexican cartels. It is unprecedented, it's simply very visible. If you think Putin and his oligarchs or the Saudi royals, for example, don't have similar organized immorality, then you're naive. Nevermind past eras or horrors like imperial Japan, who stabbed babies in the womb, the Mongols whose torture and rape was historically prolific, the Aztecs human sacrifices, the list goes on and on. Oh and the world wide Catholic Church? The most prolific child sex abusers in known history?

[–] hector@lemmy.today 1 points 17 minutes ago

Good points. However a big difference here is that this organized debauchery and perversions is weaponized to blackmail the most powerful countries in the world into supporting fascists in a small little country to do unspeakable things, that is also exporting that fascism to those home countries.

So the blackmail angle, to ultimately destroy the liberal democracies that these countries are built on, makes it a little different.

[–] Sanctus@anarchist.nexus 7 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

None of those are global, and if the saudis are anywhere they're probably also in the files which would just make that part of the same capitalist carnal club. I don't see President Xi, or many non-US aligned leaders in here. Its not you or I, why are you so offended?

[–] greenbit@lemmy.zip 1 points 59 minutes ago

Competing networks, territorial splits. It's visible in the files that this is a global thing and we see only the tip of an iceberg with one example group

[–] Sciaphobia@sh.itjust.works 8 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

That's... Also bad? Why are you bringing that up?

[–] minorkeys@lemmy.world 0 points 5 hours ago

Because the claim seemed to be that the west, and capitalism, is somehow unique in its capacity for doing very shitty things. It is not. Horribleness is a human thing found everywhere humans are and is not caused by capitalism or Western societies.

[–] nirodhaavidya@lemmy.world 25 points 7 hours ago

God Damned, that is pure fucking evil. Like, I can't even... Just literal evil.

[–] minorkeys@lemmy.world 2 points 6 hours ago

Need more than sentiments to make anything happen. I don't know what that is but I hope someone figures it out because if we stand by and do nothing about this despite the absolutely horrific accounts being known, then we as a species deserve extinction. People have no lack of desire or will or fury or want for justice in this, we have no direction for any of those things because we've been systematically disempower our entire lives.