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[–] Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world 27 points 1 day ago (3 children)

I'm really surprised those fuckers don't get fragged.

[–] perestroika@slrpnk.net 11 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago) (2 children)

The honorable tradition of fragging officers and rebelling as cohesive units certainly needs to develop in Russian society. Its relative absence tells me that anarchist-minded people are abroad or hiding - none of them are in the army.

The army, as things look, is composed of 3 main demographic groups:

  • a minority of professional soldiers loyal to Putin's regime (they attack with actual equipment after meat waves have opened a gap in Ukrainian defenses, they also run the high-tech weapons)
  • simple and stupid blokes, often a bit enthusiastic about Putin's regime, bribed with money or tricked to enlist
  • detainees and convicts promised freedom if they join the war, foreigners tricked to enlist, Ukrainians seized from occupied areas

The latter two groups get used as cannon fodder. About 30 000 per month.

All the groups are slowly dwindling in numbers. Loyal goons are increasibly dead, a military career looks less glorious if you hear of everyone who died. Society is running out of the really gullible, and even the really poor often prefer life in poverty to a high probability of death without ever seeing anything different. As for convicts, word has sufficiently spread in prisons that coming back is unlikely, so they're volunteering less.

On this background, the possibility of a mobilization looms on horizon. But Putin fears giving weapons or ammo to randomly chosen people. They might rebel or his house of propaganda and cards might collapse.

[–] Tar_alcaran@sh.itjust.works 1 points 3 hours ago

The army, as things look, is composed of 3 main demographic groups:

You're forgetting about Rosgvardia, which basically functions as a palace guard/commisar force. They exist only the keep the rest in line, not fight the war

[–] chonglibloodsport@lemmy.world 2 points 13 hours ago

It’s hard to imagine how it could develop in such a ragtag, depoliticized, nihilistic society. Not to mention a lot of those soldiers are just mercenaries.

I think most of them don’t care at all about honour and are just hoping for a payday and to keep their head down until they can go home. Seems like such a dim hope!

[–] Sundiata@lemmy.world 10 points 20 hours ago

there was a vid where russian soldiers were hacking their commander to death with an axe like it was 1799.

[–] Klear@quokk.au 17 points 1 day ago

I bet a lot of them do.

Seems Russia's military is starting to collapse in on itself, they ran through all the gung ho "Happy to be here, sir!" types in the first year of the war. Now they're just sending chaff to use up ammunition before they send in what's rest of their more experienced forces, if they still have any that is.

[–] Bazell@lemmy.zip 31 points 1 day ago (1 children)

This shit happens in russia(former USSR) from WW2 if not earlier. How do you force ordinary people to kill other people? By making them scared of certainly loosing their life.

[–] RIotingPacifist@lemmy.world 7 points 21 hours ago

Don't think it's unique to Russia, it's been pretty common in most armies, even some Anarchistic ones.

[–] Lemmyoutofhere@lemmy.ca 9 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Is it still called friendly fire at that point?

[–] flabbergast@lemmy.world 2 points 13 hours ago

Unfriending fire...

[–] phutatorius@lemmy.zip -2 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

What were the soldiers executed for? Not raping Ukrainian women and children?

[–] perestroika@slrpnk.net 10 points 17 hours ago

I recommend reading the article. It's depressing, but clear.

These guys, mostly, were killed for refusing to go on suicide attacks. Some for retreating. Some for refusing other orders. Some, possibly, for simply existing in the wrong place. The unlucky ones, for failed desertion (I hope that lucky ones outnumbered them and deserted successfully).

Women and children, except for those who got caught on the wrong side of the front, fortunately, aren't the typical casualties in a war with a static front. They get evacuated before the front crawls near. But they do get killed when glide bombs, missiles and drones are targeted at random buildings.